Emma Gillespie

I know.

But she said she's got big divorce energy.

I don't want to start with a downer, Mia, but I have to on the behalf of my...

Some of my divorced sisters in the world, they wouldn't like this.

Like you don't even have to be divorced to have big divorced energy.

Do you think it's divorce appropriation?

Well, I reckon that it's a bit like, yes, but I think it's a bit like, because what they're talking about here is you've been through the hard thing and then you're coming out the other side and you've got the like, you know, the butterfly energy from going through the cocoon.

You become hot again.

And you can't go around claiming to have hot divorcee energy when you didn't do the custody negotiations, the financial hardship settlements, all that stuff.

Like you can't steal.

It's like do you remember that interview with Dolly Alderton and she said one of the things that annoyed her the most is her coupled up friends still like co-opting single behaviour?

Talking about the one time they were single when they were like.

Exactly.

21 years old.

I mean, I still feel like a single person.

She's like, you can't have the good bits without the shit bits.

So I reckon there'd be some hot divorcees in my world who would be like, don't be pretending you divorced when you didn't go through it.

They're not the real ones.

Hot divorce energy is a thing, though.

Definitely it's a thing.