Emma Grede

I knew everything not to do.

And I really took that...

So seriously, but very importantly, I have never let it stop me because to me, it was a moment in time.

It was a set of behaviors.

It was an arrogance and a lack of understanding.

But I learned and I corrected and I never thought, Emma, you can't do that thing.

I was like, you need to learn, go off, do the learning, come back, try again.

You know, I think the easy way to frame what Jens has really given to me is this idea that it was never about me as a mum.

It was us as a family.

It wasn't like, what type of mother am I going to be?

It was like, what type of parenting are we going to do?

What type of parents are we going to be?

And how do we work together to do that?

It's never been the default that I was going to look after the kids or that the decisions would be made by me or that it was my primary responsibility.

I think that what we have is a really unique working relationship.

Everybody thinks we work really well together.

We actually don't.

We do different things.

We just happen to have these crossover points in our personal and our professional relationship.

But there's just a bunch of things that I don't think about because I have a husband who does that.