Emma Tucker

And there's a lot of talk about Europe being driven into the arms of the Chinese.

But I think this is hyperbolic talk.

And I think most CEOs, European and European,

American and certainly the leaders here aren't naive about where China is positioning itself.

And it's too simplistic to simply say, well, China is now from now going to act as as the good guy.

I think people aren't quite that naive.

On the one hand, the CEOs, they love the sort of sense of excitement around the US economy and the huge productivity gains that they're anticipating from AI.

But on the other hand, they're not very happy about some of these more interventionist measures.

In particular, the credit card proposal has gone down very badly here.

And then one other thing that I think CEOs really want to talk about is where we're headed now with AI.

So they're very excited about the potential for the productivity gains that AI is potentially going to bring.

But it's interesting that the debate or the sort of mood has shifted a little bit around AI.

Last year at Davos, lots and lots of talk about what AI can do, what it's going to achieve.

This year, there's a little bit more, well, yes, but what is AI going to do to the world?

What is AI going to do to society?

So you've heard people, including CEOs, you certainly have from the tech leaders, talking a bit more about the need to get ahead of what the impact is potentially going to be.

So I interviewed Dario Amadei from Anthropic, and he talked about a future where you have unbelievably high growth and very, very high productivity alongside very, very high unemployment.

So what does that mean for governments, for policymakers, for companies?

How does society deal with a world that looks more like that than the one we currently live in?

Thanks for having me on.