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Emma

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
3546 total appearances

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Aspire with Emma Grede
The Founder Playbook: How Michael Rubin Built Fanatics by Betting on Obsession

So what do you do in that moment? Your stock is worth almost nothing. You owe more than you're actually worth. You're sitting there with a company that's been essentially completely devalued by the crash. Then what goes through your head? Like, what do you do next?

Aspire with Emma Grede
The Founder Playbook: How Michael Rubin Built Fanatics by Betting on Obsession

So what do you do in that moment? Your stock is worth almost nothing. You owe more than you're actually worth. You're sitting there with a company that's been essentially completely devalued by the crash. Then what goes through your head? Like, what do you do next?

Aspire with Emma Grede
The Founder Playbook: How Michael Rubin Built Fanatics by Betting on Obsession

Sorry, mate, I'm broke.

Aspire with Emma Grede
The Founder Playbook: How Michael Rubin Built Fanatics by Betting on Obsession

Sorry, mate, I'm broke.

Aspire with Emma Grede
The Founder Playbook: How Michael Rubin Built Fanatics by Betting on Obsession

You're just made of something different. But the resiliency to actually call someone 50 odd times is enough for me. I mean... But it doesn't bother me. And there's no embarrassment there. There's nothing in you. You're like zero. I just want to go back because obviously to sell a company for $2.4 billion, 18 months after it was essentially worthless. This is... GSI, right? GSI Commerce.

Aspire with Emma Grede
The Founder Playbook: How Michael Rubin Built Fanatics by Betting on Obsession

You're just made of something different. But the resiliency to actually call someone 50 odd times is enough for me. I mean... But it doesn't bother me. And there's no embarrassment there. There's nothing in you. You're like zero. I just want to go back because obviously to sell a company for $2.4 billion, 18 months after it was essentially worthless. This is... GSI, right? GSI Commerce.

Aspire with Emma Grede
The Founder Playbook: How Michael Rubin Built Fanatics by Betting on Obsession

So, but you held on to a piece of that company that eventually then becomes Fanatic. So did you have, first of all, how did you manage to extract the most, like, I guess the most valuable part of the, you know, company out? because that feels like unbelievable that you could even do that. And did you have a vision for Fanatics at that point?

Aspire with Emma Grede
The Founder Playbook: How Michael Rubin Built Fanatics by Betting on Obsession

So, but you held on to a piece of that company that eventually then becomes Fanatic. So did you have, first of all, how did you manage to extract the most, like, I guess the most valuable part of the, you know, company out? because that feels like unbelievable that you could even do that. And did you have a vision for Fanatics at that point?

Aspire with Emma Grede
The Founder Playbook: How Michael Rubin Built Fanatics by Betting on Obsession

So it's like, it's a long time ago. $2.4 billion is a shit ton of money. So I just want to understand, how do you manage to get away with the bit that ends up being 25, worth $25 billion? Well, two things.

Aspire with Emma Grede
The Founder Playbook: How Michael Rubin Built Fanatics by Betting on Obsession

So it's like, it's a long time ago. $2.4 billion is a shit ton of money. So I just want to understand, how do you manage to get away with the bit that ends up being 25, worth $25 billion? Well, two things.

Aspire with Emma Grede
The Founder Playbook: How Michael Rubin Built Fanatics by Betting on Obsession

But it's so interesting to me that you had this thing and you were going to figure it out. And because to me, I look at fanatics as such a differentiator in the marketplace, right? You own your space. You own the relationship with sports fans across the all of the leagues and their purchases bar none. It's not like you have like so much competition. It's like fanatics, fanatics, fanatics.

Aspire with Emma Grede
The Founder Playbook: How Michael Rubin Built Fanatics by Betting on Obsession

But it's so interesting to me that you had this thing and you were going to figure it out. And because to me, I look at fanatics as such a differentiator in the marketplace, right? You own your space. You own the relationship with sports fans across the all of the leagues and their purchases bar none. It's not like you have like so much competition. It's like fanatics, fanatics, fanatics.

Aspire with Emma Grede
The Founder Playbook: How Michael Rubin Built Fanatics by Betting on Obsession

And indeed when I, you know, was partnering with Christine Juszczyk and we were going to start off season, all roads led back to fanatics. If you want to be in the you know, team sports business. If you want to sign with a league, you have to come back to you guys.

Aspire with Emma Grede
The Founder Playbook: How Michael Rubin Built Fanatics by Betting on Obsession

And indeed when I, you know, was partnering with Christine Juszczyk and we were going to start off season, all roads led back to fanatics. If you want to be in the you know, team sports business. If you want to sign with a league, you have to come back to you guys.

Aspire with Emma Grede
The Founder Playbook: How Michael Rubin Built Fanatics by Betting on Obsession

And so I'm so interested in how you've been able to ring fence this incredible company and you've been able to keep everybody else out when seemingly it doesn't feel like it was this big strategic part of your plan. It was like essentially what you were left with and you had to focus on that.

Aspire with Emma Grede
The Founder Playbook: How Michael Rubin Built Fanatics by Betting on Obsession

And so I'm so interested in how you've been able to ring fence this incredible company and you've been able to keep everybody else out when seemingly it doesn't feel like it was this big strategic part of your plan. It was like essentially what you were left with and you had to focus on that.

Aspire with Emma Grede
The Founder Playbook: How Michael Rubin Built Fanatics by Betting on Obsession

But you're number one.

Aspire with Emma Grede
The Founder Playbook: How Michael Rubin Built Fanatics by Betting on Obsession

But you're number one.

Aspire with Emma Grede
The Founder Playbook: How Michael Rubin Built Fanatics by Betting on Obsession

Well, listen, that's just your mentality. That's unbelievable.

Aspire with Emma Grede
The Founder Playbook: How Michael Rubin Built Fanatics by Betting on Obsession

Well, listen, that's just your mentality. That's unbelievable.