Emma
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Podcast Appearances
Like this microphone, whoever invented it. It's like to us, it's really important as podcasters, to the average person, they don't need a microphone in their life. So this product has a use. And so I think every business that exists must have and does have a purpose because that is what makes it relevant, accessible and practical for people to use.
Like this microphone, whoever invented it. It's like to us, it's really important as podcasters, to the average person, they don't need a microphone in their life. So this product has a use. And so I think every business that exists must have and does have a purpose because that is what makes it relevant, accessible and practical for people to use.
Yes. And this is one of the biggest mistakes we've made in the world of personal growth is we've put pressure on people to say your job should satisfy every part of you. It should make you happy. You should love it. It should be meaningful. Now that's well-intentioned because you spend like nine hours a day at work. You're going to spend a third of your lifetime at work.
Yes. And this is one of the biggest mistakes we've made in the world of personal growth is we've put pressure on people to say your job should satisfy every part of you. It should make you happy. You should love it. It should be meaningful. Now that's well-intentioned because you spend like nine hours a day at work. You're going to spend a third of your lifetime at work.
So the truth is you should make it as good as it can be because otherwise you're basically saying I'm okay for a third of my life to not be great. Totally. That's a lot of time. So I would encourage people to do this. There's a beautiful study that Amy Vrzniewski and her team at Yale did. And in 2019, they went out to find what they believed was the most difficult job in the world.
So the truth is you should make it as good as it can be because otherwise you're basically saying I'm okay for a third of my life to not be great. Totally. That's a lot of time. So I would encourage people to do this. There's a beautiful study that Amy Vrzniewski and her team at Yale did. And in 2019, they went out to find what they believed was the most difficult job in the world.
And mainly in America. So they went out and they were like, what's the most difficult job? So it wasn't what you do. It's not what I do.
And mainly in America. So they went out and they were like, what's the most difficult job? So it wasn't what you do. It's not what I do.
And the most difficult job in the world was to be a hospital cleaner. Because these people have to clean routine. By the way, you just cleaned up and now the toilet's a mess again. Yeah. You just cleaned up and someone's bed's changed again. You clean bedsheets, toilets, plates, et cetera, et cetera. And you have to even clean up after people pass away. So it's a really heavy job too.
And the most difficult job in the world was to be a hospital cleaner. Because these people have to clean routine. By the way, you just cleaned up and now the toilet's a mess again. Yeah. You just cleaned up and someone's bed's changed again. You clean bedsheets, toilets, plates, et cetera, et cetera. And you have to even clean up after people pass away. So it's a really heavy job too.
It's a heavy job. So they went and interviewed these hospital cleaners and they asked them, what do you do? Half the hospital cleaners said, we're low skilled labor. We clean plates, toilets, et cetera, in their own words. Then they went and interviewed some other ones and they didn't call themselves cleaners. They called themselves healers and carers and servers.
It's a heavy job. So they went and interviewed these hospital cleaners and they asked them, what do you do? Half the hospital cleaners said, we're low skilled labor. We clean plates, toilets, et cetera, in their own words. Then they went and interviewed some other ones and they didn't call themselves cleaners. They called themselves healers and carers and servers.
These cleaners or healers work the exact same hours. They work the same job. They work the same shift. They worked in the same hospitals with the same people at the same pay, but they were happier and more purposeful. They asked them why they call themselves healers. They said, we believe that a clean hospital is integral to the healing journey of the patient.
These cleaners or healers work the exact same hours. They work the same job. They work the same shift. They worked in the same hospitals with the same people at the same pay, but they were happier and more purposeful. They asked them why they call themselves healers. They said, we believe that a clean hospital is integral to the healing journey of the patient.
If the hospital is clean, people feel a sense of dignity when they use the toilet. If the hospital is clean, people's family spends more time with them by their bedside when they need it. If the hospital is clean... It's just a nicer atmosphere for someone to be sick in. And I was thinking, wow, like it blows my mind when I share it.
If the hospital is clean, people feel a sense of dignity when they use the toilet. If the hospital is clean, people's family spends more time with them by their bedside when they need it. If the hospital is clean... It's just a nicer atmosphere for someone to be sick in. And I was thinking, wow, like it blows my mind when I share it.
It literally gives me goosebumps because it's the hardest job in the world, but you've made it make sense for you. Yes. And so what I realized through that is it's not what we do for work. It's how we feel about it. Yes. And that's what Amy Rosniewski and her team, they came up with this term called job crafting. It's not what you do. It's how you feel about the work you do.
It literally gives me goosebumps because it's the hardest job in the world, but you've made it make sense for you. Yes. And so what I realized through that is it's not what we do for work. It's how we feel about it. Yes. And that's what Amy Rosniewski and her team, they came up with this term called job crafting. It's not what you do. It's how you feel about the work you do.
So what I'd encourage people to do, if you hate what you do, you don't like it. By the way, I've been there. You've been there. We've all been there. The best thing to do is ask yourself, what am I going to learn from my next job?
So what I'd encourage people to do, if you hate what you do, you don't like it. By the way, I've been there. You've been there. We've all been there. The best thing to do is ask yourself, what am I going to learn from my next job?