Emmanuel Macron

I think this very moment could be the European moment.

And for several reasons.

Number one,

Everybody in this world have a clear view that this is a world of disorder.

Second, everybody sees that the number one power, the US, could be an ally for certain countries.

But this ally is not so much certain.

and nobody is totally sure if this alarm is reliable.

Let's play this clip.

Everybody is spending more.

And at the same time, there is now a doubt on the Article 5, not put on the table by the Europeans, but by the US president.

And I mean, it's clearly de facto weakening the strength of the alliance.

I think NATO is very useful, first, for interoperability.

Second, because it was a very interoperability of our equipments, our armies, and so on.

And it is the source of efficiency.

And because it's a good strategic alliance, very useful for all of us.

But I'm a strong believer in the European pillar of NATO.

I advocated that years ago.

As your prime minister mentioned, we together pushed forward this agenda of strategic autonomy, and this is where we are.

So my view is that we have to strengthen this European pillar.

We should not be the one to weaken NATO.