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Emmanuel Malion

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
141 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

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Are ICE Agents In Minneapolis Breaking The Law?

And that certainly would be contrary to what I think any court has found in the past.

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Are ICE Agents In Minneapolis Breaking The Law?

Certainly it would be if the only thing that's occurring is that somebody is observing.

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Are ICE Agents In Minneapolis Breaking The Law?

Certainly they're doing it from a distance that's not impeding an actual shooting.

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Are ICE Agents In Minneapolis Breaking The Law?

So if there's an ICE arrest occurring and you're filming from 15 feet away and an agent approaches you and takes your phone, almost every court has found that that would be a violation of the observer's First Amendment rights.

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Are ICE Agents In Minneapolis Breaking The Law?

And that's whether or not you're a citizen or not, if you're entitled to record the government in carrying out its duties.

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Are ICE Agents In Minneapolis Breaking The Law?

And we understand one of the reasons why is because we want to ensure accountability.

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Are ICE Agents In Minneapolis Breaking The Law?

accountability and transparency.

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Are ICE Agents In Minneapolis Breaking The Law?

To the extent that the government is trying to hide what it's doing, it certainly doesn't engender any sort of confidence that they're following the law.

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Are ICE Agents In Minneapolis Breaking The Law?

So there was a case that was filed in Los Angeles based on the also recent surge of ICE and immigration enforcement activity there.

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Are ICE Agents In Minneapolis Breaking The Law?

There were claims of widespread racial profiling.

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Are ICE Agents In Minneapolis Breaking The Law?

And that case is Vasquez-Perdomo versus Nome case.

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Are ICE Agents In Minneapolis Breaking The Law?

And, you know, without getting into the complicated procedural history, essentially, the district court found that ICE was engaged in widespread racial profiling, particularly of Latino men.

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Are ICE Agents In Minneapolis Breaking The Law?

And it said that they were using four different factors, one of them including apparent race or ethnicity, to determine who was going to be stopped and questioned about their immigration status.

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Are ICE Agents In Minneapolis Breaking The Law?

This would seem to fly in the face not only of established precedent from a case called Wren versus the U.S., which explicitly said that race should have no bearing in the production of reasonable suspicion or probable cause when determining who to stop.

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Are ICE Agents In Minneapolis Breaking The Law?

Now, Wren is not a great case for other reasons, but at a baseline, it said that, you know, race cannot be an objective reason to stop someone.

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Are ICE Agents In Minneapolis Breaking The Law?

The case in Perdomo v. Noem was appealed by the government all the way up to the Supreme Court, which responded on its emergency docket.

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Are ICE Agents In Minneapolis Breaking The Law?

And so it issued an unsigned opinion that essentially overturned temporary restraining order against ICE for engaging in that kind of conduct.

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Are ICE Agents In Minneapolis Breaking The Law?

And the only insight that we got into why the Supreme Court did this came from

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Are ICE Agents In Minneapolis Breaking The Law?

a 10-page concurrence written by Justice Kavanaugh, which was not joined by any other justice, but he went to great lengths to make the case for why using race, apparent race or ethnicity, is reasonable under the Constitution.

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Are ICE Agents In Minneapolis Breaking The Law?

And I think that it was an opinion that really struck many scholars of policing, certainly immigration advocates, as a concerted effort to move the constitutional goalpost and when race and ethnicity is allowed to be