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Emmanuel Malion

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
141 total appearances

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Fresh Air
Are ICE Agents In Minneapolis Breaking The Law?

So the connection, as I studied in particular when I was with Liza at the Brennan Center

Fresh Air
Are ICE Agents In Minneapolis Breaking The Law?

with our colleague Mike German is this deep and longstanding history and connection between white nationalists and law enforcement.

Fresh Air
Are ICE Agents In Minneapolis Breaking The Law?

Like Liza, I think, you know, clearly it shows the incredibly capricious nature on which we're supposedly running our foreign policy today.

Fresh Air
Are ICE Agents In Minneapolis Breaking The Law?

But I see really clear through lines, I think, from what is happening beyond our border to what's happening outside.

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Are ICE Agents In Minneapolis Breaking The Law?

within Minneapolis, right?

Fresh Air
Are ICE Agents In Minneapolis Breaking The Law?

And so we have this flexing of power.

Fresh Air
Are ICE Agents In Minneapolis Breaking The Law?

We have this daring of both the world and also the states and also of Congress to say, okay, I'm going to assert that I have this authority and I'm going to ask who's going to stop me.

Fresh Air
Are ICE Agents In Minneapolis Breaking The Law?

You know, in many ways, I see that as the overriding message between not only what's happening in Greenland, but also Venezuela,

Fresh Air
Are ICE Agents In Minneapolis Breaking The Law?

and also that's happening on the interior of our country.

Fresh Air
Are ICE Agents In Minneapolis Breaking The Law?

One of the other things that I think we see, and this is where I think of this as a moment of continuity, is that we've seen really since 9-11, each successive administration, both Republican and Democrat, continue to incrementally ratchet up

Fresh Air
Are ICE Agents In Minneapolis Breaking The Law?

And push against the separation of powers question, as Liza has said.

Fresh Air
Are ICE Agents In Minneapolis Breaking The Law?

So I think that what we're seeing is what happens when our constitutional system, our separation of powers, our different branches of government abdicate their authority and abdicate their responsibility to reform.

Fresh Air
Are ICE Agents In Minneapolis Breaking The Law?

rein in the executive.

Fresh Air
Are ICE Agents In Minneapolis Breaking The Law?

And so one of the things that I see that's occurring both on the international stage, but at home too, is that this power imbalance is not being met with people rolling over.

Fresh Air
Are ICE Agents In Minneapolis Breaking The Law?

I think that what we see when our government withdraws protection from some while preserving it from others is that

Fresh Air
Are ICE Agents In Minneapolis Breaking The Law?

our ideas of security and our expectations of security don't disappear.

Fresh Air
Are ICE Agents In Minneapolis Breaking The Law?

Uh, they just reorganize.

Fresh Air
Are ICE Agents In Minneapolis Breaking The Law?

And so locally we're seeing it reorganize, um, on, uh, an interpersonal level where neighbors are taking care of each other, where, um, where we are understanding that we are responsible for our own security when the gut, when we can't trust the government, uh, to secure us.

Fresh Air
Are ICE Agents In Minneapolis Breaking The Law?

And on the international stage, we see, uh, the same sort of reorganization, uh, as well.

Fresh Air
Are ICE Agents In Minneapolis Breaking The Law?

We see our, uh,