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Eneasz Brodsky

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
617 total appearances

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The Bayesian Conspiracy
254 โ€“ The True Theme and Meaning of HPMOR

Is there anything from that that you wanted to hit before we jumped into the main one?

The Bayesian Conspiracy
254 โ€“ The True Theme and Meaning of HPMOR

I think, honestly, I've had a hard time with methods of rationality in terms of theme and in terms of what is going on.

The Bayesian Conspiracy
254 โ€“ The True Theme and Meaning of HPMOR

I think in large part because I've read a number of essays like Alexander Wales's essay, like trying to make sense of methods of rationality.

The Bayesian Conspiracy
254 โ€“ The True Theme and Meaning of HPMOR

And all I really know is that I really love it.

The Bayesian Conspiracy
254 โ€“ The True Theme and Meaning of HPMOR

and it speaks to a core deep part of me and uh williams i think finally nails it which is why i love it and it only took you know 11 years after hpmr was done for somebody to finally figure out what it's about which is fantastic i'm so glad he finally did this and that's why i'm so excited about this essay but like i could never quite figure it out and i i read a number of essays much like alexander sandra wills is here where he's like yeah harry never actually

The Bayesian Conspiracy
254 โ€“ The True Theme and Meaning of HPMOR

loses like he has one or two minor losses but like every time he manages to scrape his way out by you know committing harder and escalating and off screen maybe he sort of loses and but you don't get that in narration the experience that the reader has is one of like increasing escalation and increasingly managing to win just by being clever enough and stubborn enough and rational enough and

The Bayesian Conspiracy
254 โ€“ The True Theme and Meaning of HPMOR

And, you know, once at the very end, everything culminates in the end and there's this gigantic loss.

The Bayesian Conspiracy
254 โ€“ The True Theme and Meaning of HPMOR

But then again, he manages to scrape out a win.

The Bayesian Conspiracy
254 โ€“ The True Theme and Meaning of HPMOR

And like, that's a fair point.

The Bayesian Conspiracy
254 โ€“ The True Theme and Meaning of HPMOR

I think there's the case that like, it starts out being about trying to do science to magic, but then never really becomes that, which is a fair point.

The Bayesian Conspiracy
254 โ€“ The True Theme and Meaning of HPMOR

and the last thing was that as alexander wheels points out there's no character growth really uh at the very end harry's like oh i almost destroyed the world whoops i gotta change things but that's not that's not really character growth like you see character growth across the arc of a story and it's one of the main core things in a story and

The Bayesian Conspiracy
254 โ€“ The True Theme and Meaning of HPMOR

And I agree that there isn't really character growth that we're seeing, that we are shown.

The Bayesian Conspiracy
254 โ€“ The True Theme and Meaning of HPMOR

We don't feel it as an audience.

The Bayesian Conspiracy
254 โ€“ The True Theme and Meaning of HPMOR

But also, this essay was written, Alexander Wales' essay was written in 2015.

The Bayesian Conspiracy
254 โ€“ The True Theme and Meaning of HPMOR

And it was around that time period between the year 2000 to, I think, 2015-ish, 2020, where in the literary world,

The Bayesian Conspiracy
254 โ€“ The True Theme and Meaning of HPMOR

all stories are very much about character arc was kind of the accepted wisdom.

The Bayesian Conspiracy
254 โ€“ The True Theme and Meaning of HPMOR

And like, I was on this too.

The Bayesian Conspiracy
254 โ€“ The True Theme and Meaning of HPMOR

Like whenever I read a book, I was like, so how did the characters change across this book?

The Bayesian Conspiracy
254 โ€“ The True Theme and Meaning of HPMOR

What is the important thing that they learned?

The Bayesian Conspiracy
254 โ€“ The True Theme and Meaning of HPMOR

What was, you know, and a lot of, a lot of novels and stories were written with that in mind because it is really interesting and it makes for really good stories.