Eoin O'Riordan

Well, you find mechanisms.

If this person is living a life which is reasonable, if you have a mechanism, you find mechanisms with the centre right and the centre left to do what Fine Gael are trying to do with the Irish in America.

Is that if somebody has

demonstrated a life which is fruitful, has family, I mean, etc.

That you find pathways for regularisation.

Now, what you don't want to do is to encourage illegality.

I accept that.

But what Fine Gael's group in the European Parliament have tried to do is to take what used to be called the core of the frontier, where you don't engage with our party, but engage with the SND more fruitfully.

And rather than go on to the centre,

which was, you know, in keeping with what they're trying to do in America.

Even today, sorry, in the Irish Parliament, it is reported about the chief executive of the Irish Immigrant Council saying that the government is placing far too much emphasis on migration issues.

to such a degree that it's going to hurt the economy.

So I just don't understand this obsession.

It's a outrageous language.

It's fair.

It's overwhelmed.

I mean, are we serious?

Are we serious in allowing somebody to use that language that countries are being overwhelmed?

I apologise about my phone.

I'm on the 15th floor of an office block here.