Ephraim Deveroli

I'm telling you, even if it's right, it's the nuance that I'm talking about.

I mean, I am intellectually curious about that.

I would love to come back and have a conversation with him.

The thing that most fascinates me about you is that you're really someone that I don't know.

I don't know enough to certify this at all.

But it seems like you are someone that has changed.

That's very difficult to do as a human being.

The criminal part.

You were exceptionally stupid because you had a lot of money and you could have just left the country.

You knew you were going away at some point.

There were so many close calls.

Did you see a lot of people with you in prison above 45 that were nonviolent offenders and you go, man, this guy shouldn't be in here anymore?

But those are people that shouldn't have been in there from the jump.

I'm talking about people that – That's what I meant.

I'm talking about people that, like you said, aged out of it where you can just see that whatever bad blood they had or mischievousness, that it's gone.

They wouldn't be a problem.

Did you have this distinct feeling while you were there, like, I'm different from these people?

Like, yeah, all these people, but I'm a little different.

And you needed to pay her off to bury the lead.

Of course, you know that he did.