Eric Boduch

Trained with it and invest in that because...

People are like, you think about it, and it's like, all of a sudden, this maybe is a million dollars of extra revenue.

So just making a change maybe is a million bucks.

Yes, yes.

And you're like, oh, a million bucks, great.

But then you start thinking about it.

We were VC driven.

What was a million bucks if you're raising money at 15 times revenue or whatever it was at the time?

A lot of enterprise value.

Now, all of a sudden, it's 15.

This is like a $15 million change for us, right?

know so invest in product marketing you know figure out how you can change your win rate make sure that sales people are trained and it's worth a lot of enterprise value we're going to wrap up with two rapid fire questions here real quick pendo has raised a lot of money you are not bootstrapped how much has pendo raised total i don't know i think i lost it was a high number it was higher than i could count a couple hundred million something like that yeah i think it's around three what was the last evaluation that was public

Last valuation that was public, 2.6, I think.

And what was the last private valuation?

2.6.

Oh, I mean, back then, I think that when we raised, you know, we were at 100 million.

So...

You know, now we're at two.

No, I think there's definitely buyers for Pendo.

There's definitely opportunities.