Eric Czuleger

I would, I'm just not in Europe right now. I mean, this is the longest I've been back in the States for a long time. But yeah, no, you know, good on Liberland. I mean, you know, they have come really close to establishing like a fully recognized and autonomous state.

And, you know, I was, when I was on the, so for folks that don't know, you know, go back and listen to the first pod, but I was talking with the, the president of Liberland while on the back of a jet ski, which was a really strange first way of meeting somebody.

And, you know, I was, when I was on the, so for folks that don't know, you know, go back and listen to the first pod, but I was talking with the, the president of Liberland while on the back of a jet ski, which was a really strange first way of meeting somebody.

And, you know, I was, when I was on the, so for folks that don't know, you know, go back and listen to the first pod, but I was talking with the, the president of Liberland while on the back of a jet ski, which was a really strange first way of meeting somebody.

I wasn't sworn in on the jet ski. No, I was just clutching him like a spider monkey so I wouldn't fall off the jet ski because he had a life vest and I didn't. But, you know, I asked him.

I wasn't sworn in on the jet ski. No, I was just clutching him like a spider monkey so I wouldn't fall off the jet ski because he had a life vest and I didn't. But, you know, I asked him.

I wasn't sworn in on the jet ski. No, I was just clutching him like a spider monkey so I wouldn't fall off the jet ski because he had a life vest and I didn't. But, you know, I asked him.

I can, but it was the Danube and, you know, yeah, it's a moving river. Oh, you probably get AIDS in that river. Yeah. Hopefully not. I didn't find out, which was good. And, you know, I asked him, I was trying to figure out like what to ask him because I'd spent, you know, all of this time in unrecognized nations. I'd spent almost a year in unrecognized nations in Iraqi Kurdistan and Kosovo and...

I can, but it was the Danube and, you know, yeah, it's a moving river. Oh, you probably get AIDS in that river. Yeah. Hopefully not. I didn't find out, which was good. And, you know, I asked him, I was trying to figure out like what to ask him because I'd spent, you know, all of this time in unrecognized nations. I'd spent almost a year in unrecognized nations in Iraqi Kurdistan and Kosovo and...

I can, but it was the Danube and, you know, yeah, it's a moving river. Oh, you probably get AIDS in that river. Yeah. Hopefully not. I didn't find out, which was good. And, you know, I asked him, I was trying to figure out like what to ask him because I'd spent, you know, all of this time in unrecognized nations. I'd spent almost a year in unrecognized nations in Iraqi Kurdistan and Kosovo and...

transnistria and you know there i was holding holding on to the president of liberland as we sort of went up the the danube river on a on a jet ski and i asked i was trying to figure out some really good question to ask him but you know in that environment while you're holding on to your interview subject i don't know if i've ever tried to interview this way but it's like talking right directly i was just sort of yelling into his ear because the jet ski was loud yeah

transnistria and you know there i was holding holding on to the president of liberland as we sort of went up the the danube river on a on a jet ski and i asked i was trying to figure out some really good question to ask him but you know in that environment while you're holding on to your interview subject i don't know if i've ever tried to interview this way but it's like talking right directly i was just sort of yelling into his ear because the jet ski was loud yeah

transnistria and you know there i was holding holding on to the president of liberland as we sort of went up the the danube river on a on a jet ski and i asked i was trying to figure out some really good question to ask him but you know in that environment while you're holding on to your interview subject i don't know if i've ever tried to interview this way but it's like talking right directly i was just sort of yelling into his ear because the jet ski was loud yeah

um and i was like uh you started a country is it worth it it was the best i could get out and and then he kind of stopped the jet ski and he was like really thoughtful for a second he was like everybody should start their own country and then he just busted the sickest like 180 and then on the danube and i was like

um and i was like uh you started a country is it worth it it was the best i could get out and and then he kind of stopped the jet ski and he was like really thoughtful for a second he was like everybody should start their own country and then he just busted the sickest like 180 and then on the danube and i was like

um and i was like uh you started a country is it worth it it was the best i could get out and and then he kind of stopped the jet ski and he was like really thoughtful for a second he was like everybody should start their own country and then he just busted the sickest like 180 and then on the danube and i was like

That's either the most brilliant thing that I've ever heard or it's complete nonsense. And the project that I'm kind of working on now is exactly that. I'm trying to investigate how one would start their own country nowadays. Because there are these new nation-state building projects that are currently happening. And that's an insane project.

That's either the most brilliant thing that I've ever heard or it's complete nonsense. And the project that I'm kind of working on now is exactly that. I'm trying to investigate how one would start their own country nowadays. Because there are these new nation-state building projects that are currently happening. And that's an insane project.

That's either the most brilliant thing that I've ever heard or it's complete nonsense. And the project that I'm kind of working on now is exactly that. I'm trying to investigate how one would start their own country nowadays. Because there are these new nation-state building projects that are currently happening. And that's an insane project.

So I was like, I should probably get some academic and scholarly backing for this kind of thing and actually try and get some good scholarly roots in actually exploring what statecraft really is.