Eric Garcia

Hannah, I really appreciate you having me here.

Hannah, I really appreciate you having me here.

This episode of Radio Atlantic was produced by Rosie Hughes and Janae West. It was edited by Claudina Bade. We had engineering support from Raps Merciac, fact-checking by Yvonne Kim. Claudina Bade is the executive producer of Atlantic Audio, and Andrea Valdez is our managing editor.

This episode of Radio Atlantic was produced by Rosie Hughes and Janae West. It was edited by Claudina Bade. We had engineering support from Raps Merciac, fact-checking by Yvonne Kim. Claudina Bade is the executive producer of Atlantic Audio, and Andrea Valdez is our managing editor.

This episode of Radio Atlantic was produced by Rosie Hughes and Janae West. It was edited by Claudina Bade. We had engineering support from Raps Merciac, fact-checking by Yvonne Kim. Claudina Bade is the executive producer of Atlantic Audio, and Andrea Valdez is our managing editor.

Listeners, if you like what you hear on Radio Atlantic, you can support our work and the work of all Atlantic journalists when you subscribe to The Atlantic at theatlantic.com slash listener. I'm Hannah Rosen, and thank you for being a listener. Talk to you next week.

Listeners, if you like what you hear on Radio Atlantic, you can support our work and the work of all Atlantic journalists when you subscribe to The Atlantic at theatlantic.com slash listener. I'm Hannah Rosen, and thank you for being a listener. Talk to you next week.

Listeners, if you like what you hear on Radio Atlantic, you can support our work and the work of all Atlantic journalists when you subscribe to The Atlantic at theatlantic.com slash listener. I'm Hannah Rosen, and thank you for being a listener. Talk to you next week.