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Eric Jorgensen

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Finding Peak w/ Ryan Hanley
Mastering Optimism: The Contrarian Lessons Naval, Elon, and Balaji Want You to Know | Eric Jorgenson

I had been following Naval for maybe 10 years. I really resonated with even his very early stuff, writing at Venture Hacks. He was one of the early bloggers about the game theory of venture capital and talking about Silicon Valley back in the 2000s, basically. So I'd followed him for a long time for his startup stuff and watching his following grow as he sort of achieved all of his goals.

Finding Peak w/ Ryan Hanley
Mastering Optimism: The Contrarian Lessons Naval, Elon, and Balaji Want You to Know | Eric Jorgenson

I had been following Naval for maybe 10 years. I really resonated with even his very early stuff, writing at Venture Hacks. He was one of the early bloggers about the game theory of venture capital and talking about Silicon Valley back in the 2000s, basically. So I'd followed him for a long time for his startup stuff and watching his following grow as he sort of achieved all of his goals.

Finding Peak w/ Ryan Hanley
Mastering Optimism: The Contrarian Lessons Naval, Elon, and Balaji Want You to Know | Eric Jorgenson

like business goals and then turning to a little bit more of a like philosophical.

Finding Peak w/ Ryan Hanley
Mastering Optimism: The Contrarian Lessons Naval, Elon, and Balaji Want You to Know | Eric Jorgenson

like business goals and then turning to a little bit more of a like philosophical.

Finding Peak w/ Ryan Hanley
Mastering Optimism: The Contrarian Lessons Naval, Elon, and Balaji Want You to Know | Eric Jorgenson

Yeah. Like Shane Parrish called him the angel philosopher and like that podcast he did on the knowledge project. Uh, I think it's one of the greatest podcast episodes of all time. Um, and that was really the like inspiration for me to write this book cause I was thinking about all the people that I'd learned so much from. And I like Munger, I like Buffett.

Finding Peak w/ Ryan Hanley
Mastering Optimism: The Contrarian Lessons Naval, Elon, and Balaji Want You to Know | Eric Jorgenson

Yeah. Like Shane Parrish called him the angel philosopher and like that podcast he did on the knowledge project. Uh, I think it's one of the greatest podcast episodes of all time. Um, and that was really the like inspiration for me to write this book cause I was thinking about all the people that I'd learned so much from. And I like Munger, I like Buffett.

Finding Peak w/ Ryan Hanley
Mastering Optimism: The Contrarian Lessons Naval, Elon, and Balaji Want You to Know | Eric Jorgenson

And to me, Naval is very much like in the spirit of Munger in a lot of ways, but with a really modern sort of like techno-utopian like valley essence to him that like really jived with how I see the world.

Finding Peak w/ Ryan Hanley
Mastering Optimism: The Contrarian Lessons Naval, Elon, and Balaji Want You to Know | Eric Jorgenson

And to me, Naval is very much like in the spirit of Munger in a lot of ways, but with a really modern sort of like techno-utopian like valley essence to him that like really jived with how I see the world.

Finding Peak w/ Ryan Hanley
Mastering Optimism: The Contrarian Lessons Naval, Elon, and Balaji Want You to Know | Eric Jorgenson

Yeah, I mean, he's an incredible sort of distiller of truth. You know, like he'll get things down to a very principled level. Like when I was writing this book, I really thought, you know, there'd be a thousand of all nerds like me who would really love it.

Finding Peak w/ Ryan Hanley
Mastering Optimism: The Contrarian Lessons Naval, Elon, and Balaji Want You to Know | Eric Jorgenson

Yeah, I mean, he's an incredible sort of distiller of truth. You know, like he'll get things down to a very principled level. Like when I was writing this book, I really thought, you know, there'd be a thousand of all nerds like me who would really love it.

Finding Peak w/ Ryan Hanley
Mastering Optimism: The Contrarian Lessons Naval, Elon, and Balaji Want You to Know | Eric Jorgenson

It blows my mind that we've now sold like a million copies and there's, you know, yoga teachers in Bali and like moms and little brothers reading it. Like that's so awesome. And I think it's a testament to how you know, if you really... articulate a principle. Well, it's universally applicable and it sort of feels right to almost anybody who picks it up.

Finding Peak w/ Ryan Hanley
Mastering Optimism: The Contrarian Lessons Naval, Elon, and Balaji Want You to Know | Eric Jorgenson

It blows my mind that we've now sold like a million copies and there's, you know, yoga teachers in Bali and like moms and little brothers reading it. Like that's so awesome. And I think it's a testament to how you know, if you really... articulate a principle. Well, it's universally applicable and it sort of feels right to almost anybody who picks it up.

Finding Peak w/ Ryan Hanley
Mastering Optimism: The Contrarian Lessons Naval, Elon, and Balaji Want You to Know | Eric Jorgenson

And like now that I've seen what this book, you know, five years, almost five years on, like seeing what this book has done. Um, I think there's no human on earth who could pick up this book and not take something useful away from it.

Finding Peak w/ Ryan Hanley
Mastering Optimism: The Contrarian Lessons Naval, Elon, and Balaji Want You to Know | Eric Jorgenson

And like now that I've seen what this book, you know, five years, almost five years on, like seeing what this book has done. Um, I think there's no human on earth who could pick up this book and not take something useful away from it.

Finding Peak w/ Ryan Hanley
Mastering Optimism: The Contrarian Lessons Naval, Elon, and Balaji Want You to Know | Eric Jorgenson

Yeah. So first principles is a great, um, is one of the common sort of mental models. So if you're somebody who's been reading like Munger or Nassim Taleb maybe, or now Naval, I think there's these sort of like tricks you can pick up along the way. And First Principles is a really powerful one that just has a way of clearing out all of the kind of dust and fog and

Finding Peak w/ Ryan Hanley
Mastering Optimism: The Contrarian Lessons Naval, Elon, and Balaji Want You to Know | Eric Jorgenson

Yeah. So first principles is a great, um, is one of the common sort of mental models. So if you're somebody who's been reading like Munger or Nassim Taleb maybe, or now Naval, I think there's these sort of like tricks you can pick up along the way. And First Principles is a really powerful one that just has a way of clearing out all of the kind of dust and fog and

Finding Peak w/ Ryan Hanley
Mastering Optimism: The Contrarian Lessons Naval, Elon, and Balaji Want You to Know | Eric Jorgenson

getting to the essence of like, what is truly possible in this situation? Like one of the most famous kind of stories actually comes from Elon Musk. So there's, I'm writing a book on Elon now in the same style, and there will be quite a few sort of first principle stories. And that's one of his most powerful things.

Finding Peak w/ Ryan Hanley
Mastering Optimism: The Contrarian Lessons Naval, Elon, and Balaji Want You to Know | Eric Jorgenson

getting to the essence of like, what is truly possible in this situation? Like one of the most famous kind of stories actually comes from Elon Musk. So there's, I'm writing a book on Elon now in the same style, and there will be quite a few sort of first principle stories. And that's one of his most powerful things.

Finding Peak w/ Ryan Hanley
Mastering Optimism: The Contrarian Lessons Naval, Elon, and Balaji Want You to Know | Eric Jorgenson

And the way he looks at it, the question that he asked himself, which is maybe a little more clear than, you know, if you don't know what first principles are, is like, does this break the laws of physics? If not, then it's possible to improve it, right? It's possible to do something better. So the example that he tells when he started SpaceX is, you know, why is this rocket $100 million?

Finding Peak w/ Ryan Hanley
Mastering Optimism: The Contrarian Lessons Naval, Elon, and Balaji Want You to Know | Eric Jorgenson

And the way he looks at it, the question that he asked himself, which is maybe a little more clear than, you know, if you don't know what first principles are, is like, does this break the laws of physics? If not, then it's possible to improve it, right? It's possible to do something better. So the example that he tells when he started SpaceX is, you know, why is this rocket $100 million?

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