Eric Jorgenson

If what Elon wants out of life is to be the maximum contributor to the flourishing of humanity and human progress, no matter what the cost or risk, then he's getting what he wants out of life.

If somebody just wants as much peace as possible, then they should go live in a monastery and yield any desires to affect the material world.

or have deep relationships and and maybe they have an incredible subjective experience and most people end up somewhere in between right um but as long as you're at peace with the trade-offs that you're making and you're not trying to you know fit five impossible things to coexist into one life i think you know your formula for happiness uh and getting what you want out of life is going to be uniquely yours

I think that test of what you want out of life is a good one.

I first felt drawn to Naval in the same way I felt drawn to Munger because such a high percentage of what they said was both surprising and just like immediately like felt correct to me.

When like 90, 99% of what you hear somebody say is like, huh.

Nailed it in a way that felt right to me.

They're not going to be everybody's heroes, but they spoke to me for some reason.

And Naval takes all of Munger and sort of puts him in a progressive technological setting that's exciting and futuristic and more growth oriented.

And I liked the combination of those very much.

But Naval also lives quite a balanced and well-rounded life.

I'm more of a Munger guy than a Buffett guy because Munger is kind of a polymath and Buffett is maniacally focused on just Berkshire and compounding his capital.

But Munger has many different interests and many different curiosities and has gone down many rabbit holes and lived many lives.

In the same way that Naval does.

He's founder of AngelList and investor in a ton of companies and started many companies and is intellectually well-rounded and well-read and curious and plays around with ideas and applies them in many different ways and has found a way to find –

both peace and happiness and success, like material success, kind of all at the same time and material success in a way that is like meaningful to him, not externally or image driven, I think in my view, which is like certainly what I aspire to because those are

um those are winnable games like the inner scorecard is a winnable game you can set the goal post and achieve them and you can make sure that like you're always happy with where you are um that you're not trying to like fill this bottomless bucket with like something someone else's perception that you have no hope of control naval has a line that i love that's very jarring about how um

It's a Taleb quote.

The three most addictive substances are these heroin, carbohydrates, and a monthly salary.

And that push to get you out of the comfort zone, right?