Eric Jorgenson

But some people need to win the game and then look around and be like, oh,

there's nothing else here.

Um, so I can escape the game.

Um, but there are so many games that you can spend your whole life playing them and just kind of leap from one to the other and always feel, you know, behind or pressured or like driven.

And, uh, if you know where the road ends, like what I took from Naval reading this, you know, building this book when I was like 30 is like, Oh,

if you grind and beat yourself up and have this brutal internal monologue and like right all the way to like winning the game, finally achieving all these things that you hope to the whole time, you have the same epiphany that you can have right now, which is that like,

It's all made up.

You don't even exist.

None of this exists.

We're all in this is like a hilarious, absurd dream state.

So don't take it all so fucking seriously.

You can get the things that you want or you can choose not to want them or you can you can be almost you can probably be equally effective by just like.

by having emotional detachment rather than having like being all in all consumed emotionally like wringing yourself out every day feeling massive stress about everything that you're doing and if you know that that's the eventual end state is like do I need to wait until I'm 80 and I've lived a whole life of mistakes before like embodying that epiphany or can you just be like I can keep playing the game because it's a fun game and we're here and why not like yeah it's a fun dream

And your longevity in the game and your energy level within it and your ability to sort out what matters and what doesn't.

That's what I was thinking.

Back to the Elon algorithm, it's like the

question and requirements and having like, how do you give your team members agency over their environment is like, I love this company, but like this role is now breaking me.

You know, what do we need to change in order to unlock this and continue it and help the energy sort of proceed?

And look, of course, there's many solutions to that.

me the most universal thing um and the most the thing that i come back to most often here is like thoughtful desire management um i've i've now noticed when a new desire enters my mind and i have to like triage it uh and i've learned to like you know i used to i used to like watch stand-up comedy and half of my experience of watching stand-up comedy would be like