Eric Larson

Yeah, Jess, I love your framing and kind of that juxtaposition of incumbents and insurgents.

And when I launched the podcast, I kind of diagrammed out the reasoning and I said the conjunction here between incumbents and insurgents is super important.

It's not incumbents versus insurgents or incumbents or insurgents.

It's incumbents and insurgents.

And

You know, the notion is that U.S.

healthcare has been super impenetrable to just about every tech phase shift of the past generation.

I mean, internet, mobile, social, cloud, big data and analytics, enterprise SaaS, blockchain.

And technology has transformed every other vertical in the U.S.

economy.

And what I'm trying to do, and I know what you're trying to do, is really bring the incumbents and insurgents into dialogue.

And I think about incumbency as not some invariant law of nature.

I think about it as a head start.

And depending on your sector within the economy, you have either a little bit of time or a lot of time or no time to adapt.

And, you know, one of the things I imagine Jess will talk about is this notion of functional verifiability.

Is there something in healthcare that has a right, wrong answer?

Correct, incorrect, a ground truth.

It could be revenue cycle management.

And I imagine we'll talk about that.

You get that claim right or it's wrong.