Eric Levitz

And I would say that organizations have to do what they believe is in their best interest. One of the things that I don't think that we should do is force organizations to do DEI when it's against their own values. If they don't believe in this, then they ought to walk away.

And I would say that organizations have to do what they believe is in their best interest. One of the things that I don't think that we should do is force organizations to do DEI when it's against their own values. If they don't believe in this, then they ought to walk away.

For organizations that are just afraid and concerned and don't want to get run over by that political big megaphone of the president, then I understand people pivoting, and I don't have a problem with that.

For organizations that are just afraid and concerned and don't want to get run over by that political big megaphone of the president, then I understand people pivoting, and I don't have a problem with that.

For organizations that are just afraid and concerned and don't want to get run over by that political big megaphone of the president, then I understand people pivoting, and I don't have a problem with that.

I believe that bias is a human condition, that all people have bias and we have to really work on that. The largest group of people that I've trained over the last three decades have been white men. And that means I've not only trained them, but I've learned from them. And many times, many of the things that they said to me, Eric, this doesn't feel fair. I said, I agree.

I believe that bias is a human condition, that all people have bias and we have to really work on that. The largest group of people that I've trained over the last three decades have been white men. And that means I've not only trained them, but I've learned from them. And many times, many of the things that they said to me, Eric, this doesn't feel fair. I said, I agree.

I believe that bias is a human condition, that all people have bias and we have to really work on that. The largest group of people that I've trained over the last three decades have been white men. And that means I've not only trained them, but I've learned from them. And many times, many of the things that they said to me, Eric, this doesn't feel fair. I said, I agree.

You know, they would say to me, Eric, why are only the biases of white guys? People are only concerned about those. Everybody else has got prejudices and nobody ever talks about that. I said, you're right.

You know, they would say to me, Eric, why are only the biases of white guys? People are only concerned about those. Everybody else has got prejudices and nobody ever talks about that. I said, you're right.

You know, they would say to me, Eric, why are only the biases of white guys? People are only concerned about those. Everybody else has got prejudices and nobody ever talks about that. I said, you're right.

And so I started making sure that we were meaningfully including the voices of white men and understanding some of the challenges that they were facing and standing alongside them when that was appropriate.

And so I started making sure that we were meaningfully including the voices of white men and understanding some of the challenges that they were facing and standing alongside them when that was appropriate.

And so I started making sure that we were meaningfully including the voices of white men and understanding some of the challenges that they were facing and standing alongside them when that was appropriate.

Well, I love that. It's just nobody's living that way. The thing that I loved is when I saw that the president's executive order was named ending illegal discrimination. I was like, what?

Well, I love that. It's just nobody's living that way. The thing that I loved is when I saw that the president's executive order was named ending illegal discrimination. I was like, what?

Well, I love that. It's just nobody's living that way. The thing that I loved is when I saw that the president's executive order was named ending illegal discrimination. I was like, what?

If the president, in fact, seeks to end illegal discrimination, you can't just focus on the discrimination that happens to the dominant culture. You've got to also make sure that you're putting mechanisms in place to end illegal discrimination against all of those protected classes as well.

If the president, in fact, seeks to end illegal discrimination, you can't just focus on the discrimination that happens to the dominant culture. You've got to also make sure that you're putting mechanisms in place to end illegal discrimination against all of those protected classes as well.

If the president, in fact, seeks to end illegal discrimination, you can't just focus on the discrimination that happens to the dominant culture. You've got to also make sure that you're putting mechanisms in place to end illegal discrimination against all of those protected classes as well.