Eric Lichtblau

trying to bring in the white Afrikaners, which was another myth that was started by a neo-Nazi group in South Africa, you know, and on and on.

These are all points of pride for neo-Nazi groups that look to Trump as an icon.

Yeah, I have.

I mean, that's one of the reasons that I started down this road was that I had written about the World War II era Nazis, and I wanted to understand after that kind of horrible, ugly fascism, how is it that 70 years later we have...

This whole new generation that has opened its arms up to those horrible people and wants to do it all over again.

How did we get to this place?

Yeah, the response was sort of a feel-good moment, where you had these kids, and they were teenagers,

really put them through hell for several months there, where they were leaving all sorts of racist and sexual material, and they had two very young kids who literally couldn't sleep at night, and they were just terrorized day and night, and asking, like, why do they hate us, and what did we do wrong, and why don't they want us to live here, and

They went to the police.

They put in who wouldn't do anything.

They put in new fence and ring doorbells and all sorts of other things, got videos, went to the town council and nothing.

Then these neighbors set up this patrol and gradually it stopped.

And, you know, sometimes it just goes to show that, you know, public shaming can do something where even the police and other public action can't.

And you realize, you know,

There are some good people out there and there are a lot of bad people out there, at least enough that can make people's lives miserable.

It only takes one or two to make their lives miserable.

There are a number of very effective hate speech monitors, especially in Europe and the EU, but the Trump administration has tried to silence them and last month took steps against five prominent Europeans to keep them out of the United States altogether.

accusing them of supposedly censoring free speech and accusing them of overly burdensome regulations, which a lot of hate speech advocates saw as just another another pretext for opening the door to to more hate speech.

My pleasure.

Thank you.