Eric Lichtblau

They didn't end up doing any of that as far as we know, or taking more aggressive steps.

You know, they were seen as sort of powerless to stop him.

Oh, he's an adult at that point.

He was about 21 years old.

Very limited.

They were never friends.

They were barely acquaintances.

You know, Blaze was a very artsy kid, a poet and a writer.

He, unlike Sam, was sort of a poster child at the Orange County Art School where they both attended, very into writing and performing and theater.

And at Penn, he was...

one of the leaders of the culinary magazine where he wrote and prepared dishes for the magazine and

was thinking of going to medical school, but wasn't sure because he loved writing so much, had lots and lots of friends.

He was the opposite of Sam in many ways from their experiences at the art school.

Blaise saw him as really a loner, someone, if anything, to be feared.

Yeah, he had actually heard from Sam about six months earlier with this same sort of dalliance.

And there had been this friendly back and forth, almost flirtatious, you know, is he flirting with me?

Can't quite figure it out.

This does not seem like the same Sam Woodward sort of bully, homophobic guy that I knew back in high school.

And then the first go-round, it just sort of stopped.

And in fact, Sam was the one who more or less pulled away at that point and said, well, I'm not really interested.