Eric Newcomer

And so I think it's going to be... Yeah, not to mention the team specifically.

I mean, that's an efficient trade.

The starter pack.

No, let's do it again soon.

This is great.

And, yeah, well, feel free to call in from a World Cup game or something like that.

Nothing scheduled yet.

Oh, you're telling everybody about it.

Thanks again for having me.

Great to have you.

Did you launch this on Monday, knowing that the specs announcement was happening?

Was that somewhat intentional or just kind of random?

Well, maybe even before that, like I want to know about your product, but like in your view over the last few years, as you've been using these products, developing them, like what is, what is the ideal product?

What does it do?

What is like, should we be thinking, we were debating earlier, does like,

Do we need to be thinking about like killer use cases, like specific things that people do every day or do, you know, a lot of the the specs demos?

There were some some of the things that were being demoed.

I was like, OK, that would be cool.

Like I'd maybe do that once a year, right?

Like measuring like a room, like how a piece of furniture would fit in that.