Eric O'Neill

There was a lot of chatter and coordination ahead of the attack.

It's not.

Actually, it's a rather complex question because it depends on what medium of communication the group is using.

For example, there are different services like Discord, which is used by gamers all over the world.

That's really what it was...

created for, and it's basically a virtual chat room.

But when you are having voice chats, it's completely encrypted.

You can set up a private server and then delete it when you're done.

That's not the only one.

There are other apps like that, which makes it very hard for law enforcement to come across it.

Now, of course, if the terrorists or the bad actors are using sort of traditional chat rooms and message boards that can be monitored easily or are being monitored by the main social media companies for these sort of things, then it makes it a little easier for law enforcement.

So as with so many questions, it really does depend on how savvy they are and how well they understand cybersecurity.

Turtle Island Liberation Front is what they called themselves.

Yeah, well, they're targeting corporations and buildings, and they were going to use pipe bombs, which can cause serious damage and are not very difficult to build.

And the interesting thing is the FBI took them down on a raid as they were in the desert building these pipe bombs, presumably to fulfill their plans and detonate.

Exactly.

So here they would have learned about the group from some method, whether it's intelligence provided by a member or digital trails that were left behind.

And then they surveil them and watch them.

So until while it's planning, okay, there could be conspiracy to commit, but then once they have the components to build these bombs and they're actually about to assemble them, that's where you move in and you take them down.

One of the reasons for that, by the way, is because law enforcement does care about everybody's life.