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Eric Swalwell

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162 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

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All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Inauguration Interviews: Trump's Talent, Democratic Rebrand & more with House Whip Emmer, Reps Swalwell & Khanna

So the Supreme Court was not saying whether we should ban or not ban TikTok. They were saying that Congress voted, President signed, and there's no way around this ban. So I think they were just following the law. I voted against the ban. I think China is the place where you...

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Inauguration Interviews: Trump's Talent, Democratic Rebrand & more with House Whip Emmer, Reps Swalwell & Khanna

So the Supreme Court was not saying whether we should ban or not ban TikTok. They were saying that Congress voted, President signed, and there's no way around this ban. So I think they were just following the law. I voted against the ban. I think China is the place where you...

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Inauguration Interviews: Trump's Talent, Democratic Rebrand & more with House Whip Emmer, Reps Swalwell & Khanna

And the problems that I have with TikTok as a father of like three little kids are the problems that I have with Meta and the problems that I have with, yeah, all social.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Inauguration Interviews: Trump's Talent, Democratic Rebrand & more with House Whip Emmer, Reps Swalwell & Khanna

And the problems that I have with TikTok as a father of like three little kids are the problems that I have with Meta and the problems that I have with, yeah, all social.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Inauguration Interviews: Trump's Talent, Democratic Rebrand & more with House Whip Emmer, Reps Swalwell & Khanna

And I look to Jim Himes, who is the senior Democrat on the Intelligence Committee, the ranking member. He's in what's called the gang of eight. He has the most exquisite access to intelligence. And Jim voted against the ban. And I thought, you know what? If this guy is not seeing anything on the national security level.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Inauguration Interviews: Trump's Talent, Democratic Rebrand & more with House Whip Emmer, Reps Swalwell & Khanna

And I look to Jim Himes, who is the senior Democrat on the Intelligence Committee, the ranking member. He's in what's called the gang of eight. He has the most exquisite access to intelligence. And Jim voted against the ban. And I thought, you know what? If this guy is not seeing anything on the national security level.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Inauguration Interviews: Trump's Talent, Democratic Rebrand & more with House Whip Emmer, Reps Swalwell & Khanna

Nothing that I had seen. Is it owned by the Chinese government? Absolutely. But is there a national security risk? I have not seen that.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Inauguration Interviews: Trump's Talent, Democratic Rebrand & more with House Whip Emmer, Reps Swalwell & Khanna

Nothing that I had seen. Is it owned by the Chinese government? Absolutely. But is there a national security risk? I have not seen that.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Inauguration Interviews: Trump's Talent, Democratic Rebrand & more with House Whip Emmer, Reps Swalwell & Khanna

Is that fair or unfair to you? It is out of the reach of the United States government. But what I will say is... Most of what we buy as far as what's in our basket at Walmart has a Chinese component that could make us very much at risk. What's in our basket doesn't have a microphone or your GPS.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Inauguration Interviews: Trump's Talent, Democratic Rebrand & more with House Whip Emmer, Reps Swalwell & Khanna

Is that fair or unfair to you? It is out of the reach of the United States government. But what I will say is... Most of what we buy as far as what's in our basket at Walmart has a Chinese component that could make us very much at risk. What's in our basket doesn't have a microphone or your GPS.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Inauguration Interviews: Trump's Talent, Democratic Rebrand & more with House Whip Emmer, Reps Swalwell & Khanna

I guess my point is like, yeah, TikTok's not a problem. You want to ban everything that's made in China? That's great. You'll destroy the economy. Exactly.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Inauguration Interviews: Trump's Talent, Democratic Rebrand & more with House Whip Emmer, Reps Swalwell & Khanna

I guess my point is like, yeah, TikTok's not a problem. You want to ban everything that's made in China? That's great. You'll destroy the economy. Exactly.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Inauguration Interviews: Trump's Talent, Democratic Rebrand & more with House Whip Emmer, Reps Swalwell & Khanna

I guess I'm the only one of the four of us that doesn't want to ban speech. No, I'm with you.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Inauguration Interviews: Trump's Talent, Democratic Rebrand & more with House Whip Emmer, Reps Swalwell & Khanna

I guess I'm the only one of the four of us that doesn't want to ban speech. No, I'm with you.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Inauguration Interviews: Trump's Talent, Democratic Rebrand & more with House Whip Emmer, Reps Swalwell & Khanna

You've got a guy in the Intelligence Committee here telling you. Well, but I also looked at... the small business owners who use that as a platform. I understand how you just, the buckets that you just created. People depend on it. And more people, what I was telling the White House was more people watch President Biden's State of the Union address on TikTok than anywhere else.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Inauguration Interviews: Trump's Talent, Democratic Rebrand & more with House Whip Emmer, Reps Swalwell & Khanna

You've got a guy in the Intelligence Committee here telling you. Well, but I also looked at... the small business owners who use that as a platform. I understand how you just, the buckets that you just created. People depend on it. And more people, what I was telling the White House was more people watch President Biden's State of the Union address on TikTok than anywhere else.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Inauguration Interviews: Trump's Talent, Democratic Rebrand & more with House Whip Emmer, Reps Swalwell & Khanna

And President Biden had just gone on TikTok right before this.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Inauguration Interviews: Trump's Talent, Democratic Rebrand & more with House Whip Emmer, Reps Swalwell & Khanna

And President Biden had just gone on TikTok right before this.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Inauguration Interviews: Trump's Talent, Democratic Rebrand & more with House Whip Emmer, Reps Swalwell & Khanna

Sure, no, I get it. So my point is,

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Inauguration Interviews: Trump's Talent, Democratic Rebrand & more with House Whip Emmer, Reps Swalwell & Khanna

Sure, no, I get it. So my point is,