Eric Topol

I share that with you.

I'm sad that I won't be around to see it, but exactly as you've outlined, the fact that we're going to be able to have a huge impact on particularly the age-related diseases, but also, as you touched on, the genetic diseases with genome editing and many other

I think abilities that we have now, like controlling the immune system, like a rheostat, I mean, a central part of how we get into trouble with diseases.

So I couldn't agree with you more.

And that's a really good note to finish on because so many of the things that we have discussed today, we share similar views and we come at it from totally different worlds.

The economist that has a very wide angle lens

And I guess you could say the physician who had a more narrow lens aperture.

But thank you so much, Tyler, for joining me today.

I sure hope they're right.

Well, hello, it's Eric Topol with Ground Truths, and we're going to get into a new book called Conflict Resilience, Negotiating Disagreement Without Giving Up or Giving In.

And we're lucky to have its two authors, Bob Bordone, who is a senior fellow at Harvard Law School, and Joel Salinas, who is a physician, neurologist, a clinician scientist at NYU.

So welcome both Bob and Joel.

Thank you for having us.

Yeah, so first, how did you guys get together?

You know, this is pretty diverse.

You got law and medicine.

Usually they don't talk to each other very much.

Yeah, well, you sure hit it with the divisiveness and the polarized world that we live in is perhaps worse than ever, certainly in all my years and probably long before then as well.

So this topic of resilience, it's a very interesting concept because some people might think of resilience as just being tough.

So you go into a conflict and just go heavy tough.