Eric Topol

And what we're seeing now with wildfires, of course,

in Los Angeles, but obviously they're just part of what we're seeing in many parts of the world and what that does, what that carries.

So, you know, the dirty air, but also what we're now seeing with the crisis of climate change.

Yeah, I mean, just this week in Nature is a feature on how this dirty air pollution, the urbanization that's leading to brain damage, Alzheimer's, but also, as you pointed out, increases everything, all-cause mortality, cardiovascular, various cancers.

I mean, it's just bad news, and it fits into this where... And one...

Yeah, and to your point, there were several reports during the pandemic that air pollution potentiated SARS-CoV-2 infections because of that point that you're making, that is, as a carrier.

Yeah, no, it could just be that because they have more inflammation of their lungs that they're just more sensitive to when they get the infection.

But there seems, like you said, to be some interactions between pathogens and polluted air.

I don't know that we want to get into germ warfare because that's a whole other topic, but you cover that well.

It's very scary stuff.

Oh, my gosh.

Yes.

And then the last thing I wanted just to get into is if we took this all seriously and learned in which we don't seem to do that well in some respects, wouldn't we

change the way we, like, for example, the way our cities, the way we increase our world of plants and vegetation, rather than, you know, just basically take it all down?

What can we do in the future to make our ecosystem with air a healthier one?

Yeah, such a great point.

Now, before we wrap up, is there anything that you want to highlight that I haven't touched on in this amazing book?