Eric Topol

You're trying to be an objective, neutral, you know, critique observer.

Think about all this pushback about AI and what is the basis of it?

Yeah, no, I think you're making some good points there.

I do want to go back to empathy in a moment because that's something

Very much unanticipated.

I certainly didn't anticipate it.

But before I do that, you know, there's a lot of what you referred to, of course, Kasparov's law.

Yes.

Kasparov, that as everyone knows, he was the grandmaster chess world champion.

And when he lost to the machine, he proclaimed that the best of all worlds is the human end.

And in medicine, you may have seen recently that there's been several studies where the AI, and we wrote a phenomenon, and I wrote an op-ed in the New York Times about this, that the AI compared to the doctor with AI.

I was better.

Yes.

So that doesn't go along with this hybrid thing.

Do you think eventually we'll get to the hybrid model being the best for clinicians?

Oh, yeah.

These are the...

How grounded are clinicians?

How are they willing to embrace?

And will they ultimately be superseded for certain tasks by the AI alone?