Eric Topol

And this has been going on throughout my career.

I mean, when I was back 20 years ago at Cleveland Clinic, the people on the board, I wrote about it in one of my books.

Why did you become a trustee on the board?

And he said, so I could get access to the right doctor.

And so this is amazing.

We live in an information era, supposedly, where people can get

information about this being the most precious part, which is they want to get the right diagnosis, they want to get the right treatment or prevention, whatever, and they can't get it.

And

I'm finding this just extraordinary, given that we can do deep research through several different AI models and get reports generated on whatever you want, but you can't get the right doctor.

So now let's go over to what you're working on, this company, Included Health.

When did you start that?

Yeah, one example, a patient of mine who I've looked after for some 35 years contacted me and said, a very close friend of mine,

lives in the Palm Springs region.

And he has this horrible skin condition and he's tortured.

And he's been to six centers, UCSF, Stanford, Oregon Health Science, Eisenhower, UCLA.

And he had a full workup and he can't sleep because he's itching all the time.

His whole skin is exfoliating and cellulitis and

He had biopsies everywhere.

He's put on all kinds of drugs, monoclonal antibodies.

And I said to this patient of my side, I don't know, this is way out of my area.