Eric Topol

And I've talked with Susan, of course, and she wrote an op-ed in the Wall Street Journal

which tells the truth of what really happened, of course.

Yeah, no, I appreciate what you've done.

Yeah, I mean, the work you've done here, standing up for the science is extraordinary.

And it's so great that you and Michael Mann came together for two of the major existential threats of our world.

And, you know, I think it's essential that we not lose hope, that we keep, you know, you outline many, many steps that we didn't get into.

about how to come up with an anti-force that will get us there quicker, which is restoration of trust, restoration of believing in facts and the evidence that is there.

So thank you, Peter.

This has been so enjoyable.

This book...

I can't recommend it enough for those who are seeing the siege.

That's perhaps more intense than ever.

And the more siege, the more polarization, the more, you know, tension that we have.

But, you know, eventually...

I hope we'll get this back on track.

I know you feel the same way.

So, Peter, can't thank you enough for discussing the book.

It's a big week for the book coming out and everything else that's going on right now.

Yeah, and thanks to everybody for joining, almost everybody.

who supported the work that Peter's doing and the science quest for truth, and the people who also defended many things that were put erroneously by the people who wanted to interfere with our conversation by putting up lies and saying that there were no placebo-controlled trials of vaccines, for example, all sorts of things.