Eric Weinstein

And what changed?

Um...

There was no way to explain.

So Jesse was going on and on about it.

I said, Jesse, you're a smart guy.

And I often would call him the back alley scholar.

So he knew a lot of stuff that was sort of forbidden knowledge.

And he wouldn't be quiet about it.

so I said, okay, I'm going to disabuse you of the idea that you're actually into something.

And I realized very quickly at a minimum, there is a massive denied program, like usually called a special access program, one or more.

There's no way to synchronize that number of people who've had experiences that are so similar.

And there was a lot of stuff that I couldn't make sense of.

And what attracted me in a certain sense, um,

was I couldn't come up with any explanation.

So rare.

I usually have exactly the opposite problem, which is I come up with too many explanations.

I can't come up with a single explanation that makes sense of what I now know.

And also the fact that the government outreach to me and to Sam Harris and to Lex Friedman

And, you know, there was this thing where these guys who checked out said there's going to be a massive disclosure and we need people to disseminate these things to the public and you have a share of the public who listens to you.

And we need to get you informed so that you can help mediate the disclosure.