Eric Weinstein

It's one component.

But it doesn't excite us that this is a guy spying.

Control of science, Joe.

And Los Alamos was where Oppenheimer and where a lot of the nuclear weapons, the bomb.

Manhattan Project was at Los Alamos.

And you bought your property out in New Mexico to be near that?

They cut that because the end of the, this was the Cold War dividend, right?

Because that was about nuclear weapons.

And you wanted to investigate that?

And that was the beginning of your concept of the Santa Fe Institute?

Okay.

Now, what you're seeing there is fascinating.

By the way, very well isolated, exactly the bit that I wanted.

In that interview or that training, he claims to have founded the Santa Fe Institute.

Santa Fe Institute was founded, I think, in 1984, not 1990 or 1993.

Bannon clearly knows more about why these scientists were being defunded

than does the person who buys this property.

Now that property is not only close to Los Alamos, it's also close to Sandia National Laboratory.

Like people said to me, Eric, you said he was an idiot.

He's clearly very knowledgeable.