Eric Zimmer

And I think that's a really powerful story in that regard.

I think luckily for most of them, you talk about, to your point, like the emotional payoff.

This guy had nothing until it went all the way through.

Exactly.

Now, for most of us, luckily, that's not the case, right?

We start taking positive action in our life towards things that matter to us.

We start getting benefits.

So our little bit, we don't have to wait till it's a lot for us to get some degree of benefit from it.

But he did.

But it's still a very inspirational story of, again, what seems impossible can be done if you just have the persistence to do it.

Because he should have one, yeah.

No, it's not.

What?

You probably could.

I was actually it's funny that you bring this example up because I was just walking last night and I've got this little trail that goes around like where I live and there's a fence and there's a freeway over there on the other side of it is just trash.

Lots of trash.

Yeah.

And I came around and there was just this little corner.

And it occurred to me like, you know what, I could clean that corner up.

You know, if every time I came by here, I picked up a piece or two of trash, eventually this little corner would not have litter in it.