Eric Zimmer

And at this point in my life, we are talking thousands upon thousands of repetitions.

You should think I would run to exercise every day.

And yet I don't.

Yes.

Which amazes me.

And the best answer I've been able to come up with is, you know, from evolutionary psychologists who are like, look, the body just does not put out more effort than it needs to unless there is a very clear, tangible survival based reason.

Right.

Or there's an entire field of strawberries over there that's going to supply me and my family with food for two weeks.

It's worth the caloric output.

But if you just ran around all the time back then and it didn't gather your caloric input, you die.

You see it in animals.

They just don't do anything they don't need to do generally.

They tend to just sort of hang out.

And I think we're a little bit the same.

So I do think that we need nudged.

into places that we want to be because there is a better, wiser part of us that wants more, wants things to be different.

And there's an animal inside of us that's like, eh.

Yeah.

A lot of the book is about that question.

Yeah.