Erica Stanford

And that is what you need to drive a highly productive economy.

That is fair.

And Immigration New Zealand got absolutely hauled over the coals and so should have the previous minister under Labour.

When we opened the borders from COVID and we just let in

anyone.

We literally closed our eyes and said, you know, welcome to New Zealand.

We're not going to check your documents or do a proper risk management.

That was a disaster.

That's how we ended up with 70% low skilled migrants, couldn't speak English, you know, brought all of their family and were then essentially exploited.

What we've built over the last two years is proper risk management, proper verification.

So, and we've brought in things like English language requirements.

You're not allowed to bring your family if you're low skilled.

You have to have

the skill required to do the job, which we didn't have before.

So with all that tightening up, we're just not getting the applicants who are the more dodgy ones.

Oh, we absolutely are doing something about it.

We have, in the last year, done more deportations than any year in the last five years.

It's a huge amount more than the last few years, and that's because of this government's tightening up on

those who are overstaying and those who are undertaking criminal behaviour.

We're taking a really hard line approach.