Erik Huberman

And there's a broader stat there, but it's about 98% of people that do not want to just aren't in it for the intrinsic value of working hard anymore.

And so knowing that, you get a lot of people that now it's the fault of the people that worked hard that they're not successful.

And so you take that now extrapolated to people that really just fuck off for 20 years doing drugs and doing nothing and nothing productive with society.

And now they blame society.

And you end up with...

crime problems, you know, these Klingons.

And that's where the debate of is the preventative cost better or the cleanup cost better?

Because I don't think you just like, again, the education thing.

It's too late once they learn their lesson.

People don't learn their lesson from being taught it from a dare program.

They learn it because they screwed up for 20 years and hit rock bottom.

And sometimes they learn that lesson.

To be clear, I think that war on drugs is a failure.

And with you, I think that...

To some extent, people should be.

And I actually like the idea of people doing it in their own home.

What I'm saying is if you heroin, fentanyl, these harder drugs, you're not going to be a functioning member of society.

And so, okay, so let's just take heroin in that sense.

You're not going to be a productive member of society and be hooked on heroin.

Like, it's just not a thing.