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Erika Barris

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Planet Money
How Black hair care grew Black power

longtime contributor, friend of the show, and I'm Erika Barris.

Planet Money
How Black hair care grew Black power

Joan and George Johnson's intimate understanding of what Black people wanted and needed for their hair and for their lives helped grow the Black middle class and Black power.

Planet Money
How Black hair care grew Black power

And at the same time, they helped create what is today a multi-billion dollar industry.

Planet Money
How Black hair care grew Black power

Okay, so we told you we're going to tell you this story in three hairstyles.

Planet Money
How Black hair care grew Black power

And before we get to our first, the conch, meaning chemically straightened hair, we need to paint you a picture of the times.

Planet Money
How Black hair care grew Black power

As Black people were moving into the middle class, there was intense pressure to assimilate.

Planet Money
How Black hair care grew Black power

The more kink you conked out your hair, the whiter you looked, the more respectable, and the better your chances in the workforce.

Planet Money
How Black hair care grew Black power

Did you say six years old?

Planet Money
How Black hair care grew Black power

That was during the Great Depression.

Planet Money
How Black hair care grew Black power

George, his brothers, and his mom had moved to Chicago from Mississippi.

Planet Money
How Black hair care grew Black power

They were extremely poor.

Planet Money
How Black hair care grew Black power

You were kind of like scrapping things.

Planet Money
How Black hair care grew Black power

George worked all kinds of jobs, shining shoes, delivering newspapers.

Planet Money
How Black hair care grew Black power

So by the 1950s, when the conch, that straight and processed hair, was all the rage, George was moonlighting as a bathroom attendant and washing cars on the weekends.

Planet Money
How Black hair care grew Black power

And his main job was in a Black-owned company that made cosmetics, where he eventually worked his way up to mixing chemicals in a lab.

Planet Money
How Black hair care grew Black power

Orville ran a well-known barbershop on the south side of Chicago, and he was trying to get the company George worked for to partner with him.

Planet Money
How Black hair care grew Black power

See, this guy, Orville, had created his own hair straightener, this chemical product that turned curly, kinky, coily hair to straight permanently.

Planet Money
How Black hair care grew Black power

What was wrong with him was that the straightening mixture he'd come up with was not working the way he wanted it to.

Planet Money
How Black hair care grew Black power

Orville was a barber, not a chemist, but he'd come up with a concoction based on old recipes that included mixing egg, potato, and sodium hydroxide, or what we call lye.

Planet Money
How Black hair care grew Black power

So in that elevator, Orville is venting about his frustrations.