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Erin Allman-Updike

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This Podcast Will Kill You
Ep 212 Burns Part 1: The first million or so years

First and foremost, on how to measure the severity of burns and the rate of healing.

This Podcast Will Kill You
Ep 212 Burns Part 1: The first million or so years

Because only then could you compare treatments or approaches.

This Podcast Will Kill You
Ep 212 Burns Part 1: The first million or so years

Only then could you pick lead ointment versus whiskey, ice water versus warming cloths.

This Podcast Will Kill You
Ep 212 Burns Part 1: The first million or so years

Only then could you have a hope of saving someone's life.

This Podcast Will Kill You
Ep 212 Burns Part 1: The first million or so years

How do you get consensus?

This Podcast Will Kill You
Ep 212 Burns Part 1: The first million or so years

You gather data.

This Podcast Will Kill You
Ep 212 Burns Part 1: The first million or so years

In the early 19th century, Guillaume Dupoutrin reviewed 50 cases of burn patients and followed their treatments and outcomes.

This Podcast Will Kill You
Ep 212 Burns Part 1: The first million or so years

And with this information, he put together a classification system for burns organized by depth, similar to the degree system that many people are familiar with today that we just went through.

This Podcast Will Kill You
Ep 212 Burns Part 1: The first million or so years

His was not the first burn grading system overall, but it was the first to relate burn severity, depth and total area, with mortality.

This Podcast Will Kill You
Ep 212 Burns Part 1: The first million or so years

With this system, doctors were not just treating burns, they were measuring them.

This Podcast Will Kill You
Ep 212 Burns Part 1: The first million or so years

establishing this baseline was super important to compare different approaches.

This Podcast Will Kill You
Ep 212 Burns Part 1: The first million or so years

Again, turpentine versus linseed oil might look the same in a severely burned individual, but if you tried them out on a more moderate or minor burn, you might see a difference in healing.

This Podcast Will Kill You
Ep 212 Burns Part 1: The first million or so years

Right, right, right, right.

This Podcast Will Kill You
Ep 212 Burns Part 1: The first million or so years

And it also opened the door to other kinds of treatments entirely, not just those based on topical ointments, such as surgical approaches, skin debridement and skin grafts, supportive therapies in the form of fluid replenishment, pain relief.

This Podcast Will Kill You
Ep 212 Burns Part 1: The first million or so years

By the end of the 19th century, many, though not all, of the pieces were there to revolutionize burn care.

This Podcast Will Kill You
Ep 212 Burns Part 1: The first million or so years

They were just sort of scattered all over the place, waiting for someone to put them together.

This Podcast Will Kill You
Ep 212 Burns Part 1: The first million or so years

Okay.

This Podcast Will Kill You
Ep 212 Burns Part 1: The first million or so years

Up to this point, so around, I'm going to say the early 1900s, for pretty much all of human history, burns had remained out of reach for physicians who could at most hope for the body's innate wound healing methods to kick in as they, the doctors, provided some modicum of pain relief.

This Podcast Will Kill You
Ep 212 Burns Part 1: The first million or so years

Frankly speaking, medicine had made no progress in increasing survival or healing in burns.

This Podcast Will Kill You
Ep 212 Burns Part 1: The first million or so years

That's so wild, even into the 1900s.