Erin Brown

And he is slowly being, like, reverberated in Russia because of this.

Yes, exactly.

Right.

I mean, I think it's quite easy to see why somebody like Elon Musk loves a guy who's kind of the the offbeat thinker, the person who is, you know, thinking beyond his time and also thinking about putting people on other planets, since that is a huge part of what Elon Musk wants to do.

But the real difference between Fyodorov and the likes of Peter Thiel and and Brian Johnson and Elon Musk is.

is that he was really concerned with this quest for immortality extending to everyone.

He said, not for oneself and not for others, but with everyone and for everyone, right?

That we couldn't actually achieve immortality if we left anyone behind.

And I think a lot of the critics nowadays of the transhumanist movement, this idea that at one point we will use technologies of vector to achieve immortality, is that it's largely serving a techno-elite class.

And that the morality that Fyodorov was so concerned with has fallen by the wayside, right?

Elon Musk wants to be immortal for himself so that he can extend his power indefinitely.

And perhaps he would extend that immortality to others.

But is that so that they can achieve some kind of higher cosmic purpose?

Or is it so that they can work in an Amazon warehouse or, you know, on a terraformed Mars space camp for longer?

So I think, in a way, a lot of Fyodorov's warnings have gone unheeded.

He also said that a civilization that exploits but does not restore cannot have any other result than the approach of its own end.

And I feel like in a way he's kind of a Cassandra out there saying like, hey, we can do this, but we have to do it together and we have to do it for the right reasons.

And I don't know if that managed to get translated into the 21st century.