Erin McGoff

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, it leaves a bad taste in your mouth for sure.

Yeah, it leaves a bad taste in your mouth for sure.

Yeah, it leaves a bad taste in your mouth for sure.

Um, yeah, so I'm like you, where I have just played both sides of the coin so much being a business owner. You know, I worked as a director, so I had to hire people all the time, let go of people. And then as a freelancer, I've had to get hired up and hired by over 25 companies. And so I've truly just been on both sides of this equation so many times.

Um, yeah, so I'm like you, where I have just played both sides of the coin so much being a business owner. You know, I worked as a director, so I had to hire people all the time, let go of people. And then as a freelancer, I've had to get hired up and hired by over 25 companies. And so I've truly just been on both sides of this equation so many times.

Um, yeah, so I'm like you, where I have just played both sides of the coin so much being a business owner. You know, I worked as a director, so I had to hire people all the time, let go of people. And then as a freelancer, I've had to get hired up and hired by over 25 companies. And so I've truly just been on both sides of this equation so many times.

And yeah, ultimatums just typically don't work in general. I think anybody listening to this might say, oh, there's an exception for my cousin who works in tech. It's like, yeah, there's exceptions for everything me and Jefferson say. Everything that comes out of her mouth, there's an exception for it. You got to give disclaimers for every little thing.

And yeah, ultimatums just typically don't work in general. I think anybody listening to this might say, oh, there's an exception for my cousin who works in tech. It's like, yeah, there's exceptions for everything me and Jefferson say. Everything that comes out of her mouth, there's an exception for it. You got to give disclaimers for every little thing.

And yeah, ultimatums just typically don't work in general. I think anybody listening to this might say, oh, there's an exception for my cousin who works in tech. It's like, yeah, there's exceptions for everything me and Jefferson say. Everything that comes out of her mouth, there's an exception for it. You got to give disclaimers for every little thing.

But yeah, I think just typically like strong arming people is like a last resort. And it should not be. You should always go into things more softly because you want to help people bring down their defenses whenever you're having a communication. That's like literally what Jefferson's entire book is about is how to get people to deescalate and to get softer.

But yeah, I think just typically like strong arming people is like a last resort. And it should not be. You should always go into things more softly because you want to help people bring down their defenses whenever you're having a communication. That's like literally what Jefferson's entire book is about is how to get people to deescalate and to get softer.

But yeah, I think just typically like strong arming people is like a last resort. And it should not be. You should always go into things more softly because you want to help people bring down their defenses whenever you're having a communication. That's like literally what Jefferson's entire book is about is how to get people to deescalate and to get softer.

And then you can have a real conversation.

And then you can have a real conversation.

And then you can have a real conversation.

They're thinking about a million things.

They're thinking about a million things.

They're thinking about a million things.