Erin Moriarty

If he had left her someplace where there weren't people all the time, he really could have gotten away with it.

The other problem, of course, was driving a car that was a cell phone and getting caught on video.

So his car was identified very close to where her body was.

Those were the two big mistakes he made.

Everybody feels so betrayed because so does his first wife, Heather, especially.

She has what she's been calling survivor's guilt.

Because she said to us, look, there were more reason to kill me.

You know, he owed me so much money.

But I survived and Mindy didn't.

And Mindy's friends say, even though they're really

devastated by what happened.

They're happy to know what really happened to Mindy and that there is some sense of justice.

I just want to let you listen to something that Angela Wynn, one of Mindy's closest friends, said to us.

Isn't that moving?

He gaslit everyone.

Yeah.

I also wonder whether when he left the Navy, maybe things didn't come as easy for him.

And so maybe he had to create this interesting life because he never had a great job after he left the Navy.

So I wonder if that's part of it, too, that he became kind of a legal Walter Mitty.

They met in high school.