Ernst Roets
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first heard Mar 2025
last heard May 2025
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So the criminal is a victim.
Can I say something about that, about sort of the road ahead? Because that's probably the most important part. Yeah. President Trump has started speaking out about what's happening in South Africa, for which we are very grateful, which has led to quite a backlash from the South African government. And their response is, it's not happening. That's the official... Right, yes, yes, yes.
It doesn't exist. There are no farm murders in South Africa.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So... I do think one of the issues that's on the table now is refugee status for the Afrikaner, especially the farmers, to flee to the US or to get some form of protection from the US. And I know some people are interested in that. But what I should also say, and that's why I'm so grateful that we spoke about the history part at first, is...
Our concern is that if we just leave the country, our culture dissolves and our communal identity dissolves and we become Americans or whatever.
Well, and you can look at the rest of Africa as an example, Zimbabwe and so forth. So we need to find some form of a, what I would call dispensational solution. The solution is not simply to say we need a different president. or we need a different party to take over parliament, because there's fundamental structural problems with the political system.
It's like trying to repaint the skirtings when there's a problem with the foundation of the house. And the reason why I say that is because the country is very big, it's very diverse, it has a very strong central government, and also the country is quite poor, and poor countries tend to have more socialistic governments that are not necessarily... That's because they want to be poorer still.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they're not necessarily interested in economic investments. It's just about blame shifting and scapegoating.
So, and I think, and this is our message also to people in America, is it's great if there are people who want to flee or get out to help them, that they should get help. But- we must also look towards some form of a solution for the problem.
There could be many different solutions, but I think what we are quite certain about is the direction that we need to head in, and that could lead to different outcomes. But the direction, the way I see it, is it's some form of a combination between decentralization of political power, so that those in power have much less power,
Yeah, it could be a federation. It could be some form of cultural autonomy. It could be territorial autonomy. It could take different forms. It could be Balkanization.
So decentralization and the other aspect is sort of the bottom-up approach is self-governance. Because people, and that's not just for the Afrikaners or the white people,
anglos or it's it's the the south africa is a a people call it a community of communities there are so many different nations and tribes and so forth and they don't get to make decisions about their own affairs because the central government decides and the central government's the central government regards things like cultural identity and so forth as backwards tribal thinking.
It's very similar. It's very similar to the European dynamics with the European Union.
There's a big problem in South Africa with traditional leaders, or let's say the king of the Zulus, for example, not being recognized by the government for his role that he's playing. And so the government, the way we talk about it is the difference between natural identity and artificial identity. They have the slogan that says, for the nation to prosper, the tribe must die.
But the nation for us is something else in the way a lot of Westerners think about the nation because the nation in our context is an artificial thing. It's a construct. It's putting all these people together, lumping. It's like saying you are all just Europeans now. And so Europe is the nation and the nations or the countries.
I think the waste has gone too far.
And when it gets to the point where the community dissolves and the atomized individual finds himself against the Leviathan, there's nothing you can do. You can't do anything. You can pray. You can pray. That's the only thing you can do. So the only solution is, again, what we call natural community or natural identity as opposed to these artificial communities we see today.
is for communities to be well-organized in the context of their communities, to have community institutions. That's very Tocquevillian. Alexis de Tocqueville, when he wrote Democracy in America, he said, well, this is what is going to make America great in the 1830s.
Yeah, well, perhaps I can start with your reference about the 90s, because it's absolutely true. South Africa and America was very involved with the setting up of the political system that we have in South Africa during the 90s. And it was, of course, the end of history era. Everyone is excited about...
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