Ernst Roets

Well, let me firstly say thank you very much for speaking with me. And I can say with great self-assurance that a lot of people in South Africa would be very happy to hear that you are interested in what's happening in South Africa.

Well, let me firstly say thank you very much for speaking with me. And I can say with great self-assurance that a lot of people in South Africa would be very happy to hear that you are interested in what's happening in South Africa.

Well, hopefully we can flesh out a lot of that. So you're absolutely right to say that the history of, or the patterns of land ownership and the history leading to this is complex. And we can do an entire interview just about that because there were so many events that happened in South Africa.

Well, hopefully we can flesh out a lot of that. So you're absolutely right to say that the history of, or the patterns of land ownership and the history leading to this is complex. And we can do an entire interview just about that because there were so many events that happened in South Africa.

Well, hopefully we can flesh out a lot of that. So you're absolutely right to say that the history of, or the patterns of land ownership and the history leading to this is complex. And we can do an entire interview just about that because there were so many events that happened in South Africa.

Broadly speaking, the people who live in South Africa who are of European descent, such as myself, arrived in 1652. That was the settlement when the Dutch East India Company arrived in Cape Town. or what is today Cape Town, to start a refreshment station for ships traveling around Africa to trade with the East.

Broadly speaking, the people who live in South Africa who are of European descent, such as myself, arrived in 1652. That was the settlement when the Dutch East India Company arrived in Cape Town. or what is today Cape Town, to start a refreshment station for ships traveling around Africa to trade with the East.

Broadly speaking, the people who live in South Africa who are of European descent, such as myself, arrived in 1652. That was the settlement when the Dutch East India Company arrived in Cape Town. or what is today Cape Town, to start a refreshment station for ships traveling around Africa to trade with the East.

It was initially the Dutch, and they were then joined by Germans and French especially, but some other Europeans as well. And we sometimes call them the Proto-Afrikaners because the Afrikaner people became a people obviously it's not just one singular event and then you are a people, but it happened over time when we developed our own language and culture in Africa.

It was initially the Dutch, and they were then joined by Germans and French especially, but some other Europeans as well. And we sometimes call them the Proto-Afrikaners because the Afrikaner people became a people obviously it's not just one singular event and then you are a people, but it happened over time when we developed our own language and culture in Africa.

It was initially the Dutch, and they were then joined by Germans and French especially, but some other Europeans as well. And we sometimes call them the Proto-Afrikaners because the Afrikaner people became a people obviously it's not just one singular event and then you are a people, but it happened over time when we developed our own language and culture in Africa.

So that was about 400 years ago. But what also happened in South Africa in terms of the different black groups, if you could use that term, who live in South Africa, is we had the, and still have the, what is called the Khoi and the San. A lot of people know it as the Bushmen. That's how they're also known. A lot of them prefer to be called the Bushmen.

So that was about 400 years ago. But what also happened in South Africa in terms of the different black groups, if you could use that term, who live in South Africa, is we had the, and still have the, what is called the Khoi and the San. A lot of people know it as the Bushmen. That's how they're also known. A lot of them prefer to be called the Bushmen.

So that was about 400 years ago. But what also happened in South Africa in terms of the different black groups, if you could use that term, who live in South Africa, is we had the, and still have the, what is called the Khoi and the San. A lot of people know it as the Bushmen. That's how they're also known. A lot of them prefer to be called the Bushmen.

People know them from the movie, The Gods Must Be Crazy and so forth. And they are the true indigenous people. If you want to say who are the indigenous people of South Africa, it's the Khoi and the San. They lived pretty much all over South Africa. They've been there for tens of thousands of years.

People know them from the movie, The Gods Must Be Crazy and so forth. And they are the true indigenous people. If you want to say who are the indigenous people of South Africa, it's the Khoi and the San. They lived pretty much all over South Africa. They've been there for tens of thousands of years.

People know them from the movie, The Gods Must Be Crazy and so forth. And they are the true indigenous people. If you want to say who are the indigenous people of South Africa, it's the Khoi and the San. They lived pretty much all over South Africa. They've been there for tens of thousands of years.

I've heard that too.

I've heard that too.

I've heard that too.