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Esther Duflo

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TED Talks Daily
Tax the rich — and save the planet | Esther Duflo

Every ton of carbon that we emit from the US, from India, from China, stays in the atmosphere for a very, very, very long time, contributes to the warming of the Earth, and therefore, kills people.

TED Talks Daily
Tax the rich — and save the planet | Esther Duflo

Now let's try, for the sake of concreteness, to put a dollar value on this live screenshot.

TED Talks Daily
Tax the rich — and save the planet | Esther Duflo

Now, I can see what you're thinking, the economies come, you know, we cannot really price life.

TED Talks Daily
Tax the rich — and save the planet | Esther Duflo

The reality is we are doing it all the time.

TED Talks Daily
Tax the rich — and save the planet | Esther Duflo

As individuals, we are thinking about, you know, the probability of dying in a bicycle accident and the cost of a helmet, and we kind of weigh one against the other.

TED Talks Daily
Tax the rich — and save the planet | Esther Duflo

And our governments also do it.

TED Talks Daily
Tax the rich — and save the planet | Esther Duflo

For example, when thinking about the cost of investment that can protect the lives of people on the highway, for example.

TED Talks Daily
Tax the rich — and save the planet | Esther Duflo

Mexico, which has about the world's average income, uses a value of a statistical life of about $2 million.

TED Talks Daily
Tax the rich — and save the planet | Esther Duflo

So using this number of $2 million for a value of a statistical life as a benchmark, we calculated the dollar value of the life lost because of emissions.

TED Talks Daily
Tax the rich — and save the planet | Esther Duflo

And the costs are staggering.

TED Talks Daily
Tax the rich — and save the planet | Esther Duflo

Every year, the greenhouse gas emissions of the OECD inflict a cost of $1.7 trillion, with a T, on low- and middle-income countries.

TED Talks Daily
Tax the rich — and save the planet | Esther Duflo

And the costs are the largest in the countries that are the poorest.

TED Talks Daily
Tax the rich — and save the planet | Esther Duflo

Take Niger, a country where the GDP is just shy of $650 a year.

TED Talks Daily
Tax the rich — and save the planet | Esther Duflo

the yearly damages from the OECD emission in Niger are $9,000.

TED Talks Daily
Tax the rich — and save the planet | Esther Duflo

Meanwhile, from COP to COP, rich countries are nick-and-diming the poor countries for the climate money, for mitigation, for adaptation.

TED Talks Daily
Tax the rich — and save the planet | Esther Duflo

We're supposed to be on the roadmap from Baku to Belem, from 300 billion to 1.3 trillion, but it is likely to be a road to nowhere if we continue with buzzwords and with hairy schemes.

TED Talks Daily
Tax the rich — and save the planet | Esther Duflo

The money is difficult to raise.

TED Talks Daily
Tax the rich — and save the planet | Esther Duflo

It's even harder to spend.

TED Talks Daily
Tax the rich — and save the planet | Esther Duflo

Climate negotiators from India, from Africa, are so tired to negotiate with dozens of outfits to access money that should legitimately be theirs.

TED Talks Daily
Tax the rich — and save the planet | Esther Duflo

So there has to be a better way, and I'm here to tell you one better way.

TED Talks Daily
Tax the rich — and save the planet | Esther Duflo

So first of all, how about we stop beating around the bush and try to raise $1.7 trillion for our moral debt to the poor countries?

TED Talks Daily
Tax the rich — and save the planet | Esther Duflo

Can we do that?

TED Talks Daily
Tax the rich — and save the planet | Esther Duflo

Yes, we can.

TED Talks Daily
Tax the rich — and save the planet | Esther Duflo

But let's face it, there is no money to be made saving the life of an old woman in Pakistan.

TED Talks Daily
Tax the rich — and save the planet | Esther Duflo

And this is too much money for philanthropy.

TED Talks Daily
Tax the rich — and save the planet | Esther Duflo

So the money has to come from publicly funded international redistribution.

TED Talks Daily
Tax the rich — and save the planet | Esther Duflo

Now, you're looking at me and saying, she probably was under the rock the last few months.

TED Talks Daily
Tax the rich — and save the planet | Esther Duflo

This is every country in the North starting from the US but not ending there.

TED Talks Daily
Tax the rich — and save the planet | Esther Duflo

It's cutting international commitment, not adding to them.

TED Talks Daily
Tax the rich — and save the planet | Esther Duflo

So how can I go and say, well, how about 1.7 trillion of new money?

TED Talks Daily
Tax the rich — and save the planet | Esther Duflo

So we have to take the money where it is, which is in the bank account of the richest people in the planet and the largest multinational corporations.

TED Talks Daily
Tax the rich — and save the planet | Esther Duflo

Now, before you think I'm a dangerous alien, I'm not talking about expropriation.

TED Talks Daily
Tax the rich — and save the planet | Esther Duflo

The reality is that the richest people on the planet do not pay their fair share in taxes.

TED Talks Daily
Tax the rich — and save the planet | Esther Duflo

Warren Buffett, who is no communist, quipped that he paid less taxes than his assistant.

TED Talks Daily
Tax the rich — and save the planet | Esther Duflo

And it's true, but it's not just in the US.

TED Talks Daily
Tax the rich — and save the planet | Esther Duflo

Worldwide, rich people have all sorts of perfectly legal maneuvers to avoid paying the same taxes as everybody else.

TED Talks Daily
Tax the rich — and save the planet | Esther Duflo

A tax on the wealth of the 3,000 richest people in the world of about 3% a year would raise $400 billion.

TED Talks Daily
Tax the rich — and save the planet | Esther Duflo

a slight increase in the minimum tax on multinational corporations from 15 to 21 percent would raise $300 billion.

TED Talks Daily
Tax the rich — and save the planet | Esther Duflo

I'm not dreaming, because the tax on international corporations, it exists already.

TED Talks Daily
Tax the rich — and save the planet | Esther Duflo

Twenty years ago, it would have seemed crazy to think that we could have an agreement worldwide to have such a tax.

TED Talks Daily
Tax the rich — and save the planet | Esther Duflo

And yet, in 2021, 120 countries signed a treaty, and it's already implemented by 40 countries.

TED Talks Daily
Tax the rich — and save the planet | Esther Duflo

And what is nice about it is that it does not require every single country to participate.

TED Talks Daily
Tax the rich — and save the planet | Esther Duflo

If the US, for example, doesn't participate, the way the rules are made, France and Germany, for example, can tax the US companies on their sales in France or Germany to make sure that, overall, they pay 15 percent on their profits.

TED Talks Daily
Tax the rich — and save the planet | Esther Duflo

We could do just the same for the billionaires.

TED Talks Daily
Tax the rich — and save the planet | Esther Duflo

France and Germany could send them a tax bill, say, to Jeff Bezos,

TED Talks Daily
Tax the rich — and save the planet | Esther Duflo

In the unlikely event that Jeff Bezos doesn't pay his taxes, they could start levying money on Amazon's tax in France.

TED Talks Daily
Tax the rich — and save the planet | Esther Duflo

So this is feasible.

TED Talks Daily
Tax the rich — and save the planet | Esther Duflo

This is already in the conversation.

TED Talks Daily
Tax the rich — and save the planet | Esther Duflo

Brazil put it on the map during their presidency of the G20.

TED Talks Daily
Tax the rich — and save the planet | Esther Duflo

It made it to the final declaration with support from many countries, including France, for example, and Spain, and with support from some of the Brazilian richest billionaires.

TED Talks Daily
Tax the rich — and save the planet | Esther Duflo

Thank you.

TED Talks Daily
Tax the rich — and save the planet | Esther Duflo

Now,

TED Talks Daily
Tax the rich — and save the planet | Esther Duflo

It has also a lot of support.

TED Talks Daily
Tax the rich — and save the planet | Esther Duflo

70% of Americans and 80% of Europeans are in support of a tax on the wealthiest people to help the poorest people cope with climate change.

TED Talks Daily
Tax the rich — and save the planet | Esther Duflo

So most of the time when we think about climate change, we conjure these images of wildfires and storms and floods

TED Talks Daily
Tax the rich — and save the planet | Esther Duflo

But some people are a little worried that what would we do with the money if we managed to raise it?

TED Talks Daily
Tax the rich — and save the planet | Esther Duflo

The climate activists are worried about international institutions hogging it, and the rich countries are worried about developing countries' governments using it for their own purpose.

TED Talks Daily
Tax the rich — and save the planet | Esther Duflo

So here's a simple solution.

TED Talks Daily
Tax the rich — and save the planet | Esther Duflo

Send it straight to people.

TED Talks Daily
Tax the rich — and save the planet | Esther Duflo

We know how to do it.

TED Talks Daily
Tax the rich — and save the planet | Esther Duflo

The infrastructure is already there.

TED Talks Daily
Tax the rich — and save the planet | Esther Duflo

Chief of all here in Africa, where almost everyone has a mobile money account already.

TED Talks Daily
Tax the rich — and save the planet | Esther Duflo

There are more than 100 randomized controlled trials of cash transfer programs that show that people use the money well.

TED Talks Daily
Tax the rich — and save the planet | Esther Duflo

And moreover,

TED Talks Daily
Tax the rich — and save the planet | Esther Duflo

The money not only is used well, but it also helps resilience.

TED Talks Daily
Tax the rich — and save the planet | Esther Duflo

For example, in Zambia, when people received about $12 a month in support income, not only did it increase their consumption on average, but it removed the ups and downs that they get with drought and flood usually.

TED Talks Daily
Tax the rich — and save the planet | Esther Duflo

Here in Kenya, people used a universal basic income that they had to finance, first, a better roof over their head, and second, solar panels to power a fan, a pump or a cell phone, thus increasing resilience and increasing productivity.

TED Talks Daily
Tax the rich — and save the planet | Esther Duflo

For some countries, which are very poor, there is enough damaged money to fund the UBI for everyone, such that nobody has to live under the poverty line.

TED Talks Daily
Tax the rich — and save the planet | Esther Duflo

For a richer, middle-income country, there is enough to fund a sort of insurance where no one needs to work when it's 35 degrees outside.

TED Talks Daily
Tax the rich — and save the planet | Esther Duflo

Finding ways to reliably collect money to pay for our moral debt to the world's poorest citizens would do a lot to repair the trust between the West and the rest.

TED Talks Daily
Tax the rich — and save the planet | Esther Duflo

But the reality is that temperature alone kills, and in particular right here in Africa.

TED Talks Daily
Tax the rich — and save the planet | Esther Duflo

And it is badly needed because the reality is that the future of climate mitigation is in the countries that are today poor.

TED Talks Daily
Tax the rich — and save the planet | Esther Duflo

Even if the OECD, even if the US, Europe manage to reduce their emissions, unlike the countries of Africa, India, et cetera, don't get into a crazy trajectory, the climate fight will be lost.

TED Talks Daily
Tax the rich — and save the planet | Esther Duflo

So the future is here.

TED Talks Daily
Tax the rich — and save the planet | Esther Duflo

And it can only be done if there is trust.

TED Talks Daily
Tax the rich — and save the planet | Esther Duflo

So what we need is really a new grand bargain about climate mitigation and adaptation.

TED Talks Daily
Tax the rich — and save the planet | Esther Duflo

What we need is a situation where every poor country is entitled to the damages that our continued emissions impose on them.

TED Talks Daily
Tax the rich — and save the planet | Esther Duflo

And in exchange of this money for their citizens, they commit to forceful climate action, including potentially carbon pricing mechanisms.

TED Talks Daily
Tax the rich — and save the planet | Esther Duflo

It's urgent.

TED Talks Daily
Tax the rich — and save the planet | Esther Duflo

It's feasible.

TED Talks Daily
Tax the rich — and save the planet | Esther Duflo

It's just.

TED Talks Daily
Tax the rich — and save the planet | Esther Duflo

So all of you here, especially any billionaire either in Rome or watching me, please stand up and demand a billionaire tax for climate justice.

TED Talks Daily
Tax the rich — and save the planet | Esther Duflo

Asante, thank you.

TED Talks Daily
Tax the rich — and save the planet | Esther Duflo

We don't see it in the capital of France or the US because it's mostly happening in poor countries, which are already hot, and where citizens don't have the protection of air conditioning or office jobs.

TED Talks Daily
Tax the rich — and save the planet | Esther Duflo

By the best estimates, by the end of this century, in 2100, an extra six million people will die just because of increased temperature.

TED Talks Daily
Tax the rich — and save the planet | Esther Duflo

And all of these deaths will take place in low- or middle-income countries.