Esther Zuckerman

The fuck is this?

It doesn't mean anything.

And I think, like, you know, it's... You want some level of, like, tactility.

You want a level of, like, time and place in that specificity.

A movie I love, which I will continue defending for the rest of my fucking life...

is materialist, which I think has been so wildly misunderstood.

David is making the rudest face a person could possibly make.

I don't like that move.

I know you don't.

You've made that very, very clear to me.

But I think materialist is... I like materialist.

Yeah, we did.

We sure did.

And David is making a face that says, don't talk to me ever again.

But I feel Materialist is, with like a pitch black heart and a real cynicism, more attempting a movie on this kind of wavelength than a proper rom-com.

It is.

I think so much of the hyper negative response to Materialist, which I fully understand is a very acquired taste movie that's not going to work for most people, is that it felt like A24 successfully marketed to people, we're bringing the rom-com back.

And people were so ready to just see a fun love triangle movie.

And then it was this kind of movie digging into is all of dating bullshit, which then made people feel like you offered me a cookie and then like threw acid in my face.

McConaughey did a lot of damage.