Ethan Klein (host)

Are people asking him what the fuck?

Like, is he being screwed?

Yeah, as far as I've seen, he has not replied to requests for comment to anybody yet.

What a douchebag.

Yeah.

Because this guy positions himself in the media as like a Trump...

He was a biographer and all the kinds of dirt came out against Trump.

He was always there.

I forget who I was listening to, but they were basically explaining that it, over time, has become more clear that Michael Wolff is less of a journalist that's trying to get to the bottom of all this and more like he himself is a player in Trump world, knows all of these guys, socializes with all of them, and is just trying to make a buck off of book sales, essentially.

So he responds to Epstein asking what kind of answer we should give Trump.

And he said, I think you should let him hang himself.

So this is Michael Wolff kind of spitballing with Epstein.

He says, I think you should let him hang himself.

He says he hasn't been on the plane or to the house.

Then that gives you a valuable PR and political currency.

So this seems to be saying that...

You should just let Trump deny knowing you, deny being at the house and deny going to the being on the plane because that gives you blackmail over him.

That seems to be no other way to read that.

This conversation is.

you can hang him in a way that is potentially generates a positive benefit for you like this is the obviously talking about blackmailing trump with some sort of knowledge uh... or if it really looks like you could win again this is in the lead up this is in twenty fifteen so this was um... the cnn uh... thing that they're talking about here is uh... one of the primary debates with the republican primary when trump was first starting to run