Ethan Klein (host)

And, you know, within the MAGA world has always wielded an immense amount of influence.

Steve Bannon in 2018 is having very buddy buddy conversations over text.

With Jeffrey Epstein.

This is, as far as I know, totally new information and does not make... I mean, again, this is somebody with very close association with Trump.

This is one of his closest allies pretty much for his entire political career.

Clearly still being cool with Epstein just a short time before his arrest.

So...

Basically, the context of the beginning of this conversation is Bannon has just done an interview on MSNBC.

Now, other people have dug up the interview already.

It was an interview with Ari Melbourne on MSNBC.

Here it is.

Tonight, Donald Trump faces mounting legal and political... This was posted seven years ago in 2018.

And he has Bannon on to do this sort of, I wouldn't call it softball interview, but, you know, MSNBC obviously leans Democrat.

I think everybody's pretty aware of that fact.

And so, you know, Bannon is going into having somewhat of a hostile conversation with them.

Well, it turns out that he was being advised by Epstein on how to handle this interview.

Now this is kind of what I was saying earlier about like this weird ambiguity of at times Epstein seems like he doesn't like Trump anymore and feels betrayed by him.

And then other times here he is doing his best and being very friendly with Trump's biggest ally.

Yo, this is extraordinarily buddy-buddy.

Yeah.