Ethan Strauss

They're already updated.

The mind is firing because these strange five years from now rankings that we're doing in the current moment as a time capsule, there's a lot going on.

I believe that MLB or baseball had a fair argument even a few weeks ago.

that it had jumped ahead of the nba in basketball writ large and there was a numerical argument to be made for it they had better ratings for the past world series versus nba finals people media people tend to prefer the nba

But given the totality that we've witnessed in New York City and what the Knicks championship meant and how I don't think Major League Baseball has one of those left.

They don't.

I mean, I guess the Indians, but that's not going to be the same thing as the Knicks finally doing it.

I think that you just have to, as an objective analyst, if we're going five years forward, even if I say that baseball's been gaining on basketball, which is very counter-narrative and unexpected, I got to say basketball's got to be ahead of baseball.

I think that's got to be true in the rankings.

I got football number one.

They're not going to fall off in five years, our football, American football.

And I do think, and I don't know if I'm hurting your feelings, Mr. Hockey Man, I think soccer's got to be ahead of NHL.

These are great points, and I completely agree with your perspective on what Vinnie Goodwill said that became an internet main character, everybody hates this guy sort of thing.

He was in the process of making a subtle and good point, but then got flipped when he got interrupted and challenged when he said, oh, so it's like a participation trophy, which obviously nobody believes.

about the larry o'brien trophy and then that became the outraged conversation but he was except but if you part but but his point is participate long enough and eventually you'll get to hold the trophy too right yeah and and the point is this it's that dynasties are actually good for the nba and we like to associate them with eras and if you do it again it feels more legitimate

And this point has been made by other people in different ways that how real do we think the Knicks are as an all-time great team?

It's actually not going to be determined by whatever we say about their point differential right now.

It's going to be by whether they sustain greatness.

That's what's going to determine whether we say, hey, this was some sort of blip or a fluke versus, oh, this was an all-time team and we just didn't know it at first.

It's going to be about proving it.