Eugene

And then you look at the Western world, the US in particular, most of the apps, they don't solve a problem.

Exactly.

Do you know what I mean?

And I think of... Meaningful.

No, and I think of what you're talking about now, what it's robbed us of is...

the walk to go find the pizza place, the conversation.

Remember asking somebody for directions?

You know how crazy those moments were?

Or asking someone where you're trying to get somewhere and that might spark something.

And then because you're in a place, then someone else talks to you and then a thing happens.

And where did you bump into each other?

all of the most wonderful things, or many of the most wonderful things that will happen to you in your life are inconvenience.

Oh, I love that.

So let me ask you this as somebody who's written multiple books about this.

I'm always intrigued by the things that scholars keep learning about a subject that you would think they would have otherwise conquered.

You know what I mean?

Now I want to know what you are newly discovering or what's newly exciting you in the field of happiness that you haven't previously delved into.

Discovering new parts of- You're pumping that limb bit, man.

So now I'm trying to be a professional at living.

Tell me more.