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Evan Bernstein

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The Skeptics' Guide to the Universe
The Skeptics Guide #1084 - Apr 18 2026

Proponents claim that this light stimulates mitochondria, the powerhouses of our cells, to produce more energy, ATP, which supposedly improves healing, reduces inflammation, and accelerates fat breakdown.

The Skeptics' Guide to the Universe
The Skeptics Guide #1084 - Apr 18 2026

How red light stimulates mitochondria is thought to be through interaction with cytochrome C oxidase, CCO for short, which is a key enzyme in the mitochondrial electron transport chain.

The Skeptics' Guide to the Universe
The Skeptics Guide #1084 - Apr 18 2026

Bob has nothing to do with the electrons you were talking about.

The Skeptics' Guide to the Universe
The Skeptics Guide #1084 - Apr 18 2026

Red and near-infrared light are thought to be absorbed by CCO, displacing nitric oxide , which otherwise blocks mitochondrial respiration.

The Skeptics' Guide to the Universe
The Skeptics Guide #1084 - Apr 18 2026

The idea sounds appealing and astonishingly simple.

The Skeptics' Guide to the Universe
The Skeptics Guide #1084 - Apr 18 2026

You shine light, energize your cells, and your body performs better.

The Skeptics' Guide to the Universe
The Skeptics Guide #1084 - Apr 18 2026

But while this effect on mitochondria has been observed in vitro,

The Skeptics' Guide to the Universe
The Skeptics Guide #1084 - Apr 18 2026

Very important there, you know, cells in a lab.

The Skeptics' Guide to the Universe
The Skeptics Guide #1084 - Apr 18 2026

When you're translating that effect into outcomes that we actually care about, like weight loss or some other measure of improved health, that is a very different challenge.

The Skeptics' Guide to the Universe
The Skeptics Guide #1084 - Apr 18 2026

That's what Scott wrote.

The Skeptics' Guide to the Universe
The Skeptics Guide #1084 - Apr 18 2026

And this is where the skepticism is definitely warranted.

The Skeptics' Guide to the Universe
The Skeptics Guide #1084 - Apr 18 2026

What are the quality of the studies that have been done on people as opposed to, you know, seeing cells react in petri dishes or test tubes?

The Skeptics' Guide to the Universe
The Skeptics Guide #1084 - Apr 18 2026

Well, apparently it's not all that impressive.

The Skeptics' Guide to the Universe
The Skeptics Guide #1084 - Apr 18 2026

You have small studies, short duration trials, manufacturer sponsored trials, relying on less accurate surrogate measures.

The Skeptics' Guide to the Universe
The Skeptics Guide #1084 - Apr 18 2026

And the risks of biases, of course, are always high.

The Skeptics' Guide to the Universe
The Skeptics Guide #1084 - Apr 18 2026

Do they also look at things like the longer term safety and frequent prolonged exposure to red light therapy?

The Skeptics' Guide to the Universe
The Skeptics Guide #1084 - Apr 18 2026

That's not really been well studied.

The Skeptics' Guide to the Universe
The Skeptics Guide #1084 - Apr 18 2026

And ultimately, the safety depends on the specific product in use and how it is used.

The Skeptics' Guide to the Universe
The Skeptics Guide #1084 - Apr 18 2026

And there are a lot of these products out there.

The Skeptics' Guide to the Universe
The Skeptics Guide #1084 - Apr 18 2026

You'll see them in face masks, lamps, wearables, all sorts.