Eyck Freymann

Right.

The electronic warfare mainly that you use to kill drones.

Right.

And then I am sure they've got a whole lot of spooks in Ukraine.

Yep.

Trying to buy up Ukrainian know-how.

So they're seeing both sides of that war in a way that we're not.

That's the first thing.

And then the second thing is in the Middle East, they're watching all, they're seeing how we do a high intensity bombing campaign.

Mm-hmm.

And if we go in with special forces and Marines, they're going to see that too.

And they're going to learn from that.

And I wouldn't be surprised if they will have some advisors on the ground in Iran very, very quietly.

But still, it's like studying in a textbook.

It's not the same thing as actually fighting.

Never the same thing, right.

And as we said earlier in this conversation, it's one thing to learn how to fight a land war over years and years and years.

It's another thing when you're fighting a war in the air and at sea, where basically everything's decided in the first 48 hours.

Because if you lose your key assets in the first 48 hours, there's no way you can come back and win.

And it puts more of an impetus on us to win quick and go big.